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    Yamaha done with sleds

    Very probable in the long term. Trail closures are individual nails in the coffin too. So sad but true and I feel fortunate I lived thru the Haydays of snowmobiling.
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    Yamaha done with sleds

    Yep that’s how it’s starts exchange information and technical details write off an engine or 2 support the customer during the integration and test and hope the integration kicks #*$&@ compared to in-house or competitors engine. This indicates Polaris is shopping for 4s engine applications and...
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    Yamaha done with sleds

    That has nothing to do with growing any OEM business. Lol Think whatever you want on whatever level you prefer I’m thinking on a much higher level of growing OEM loss engine revenue than what an end user website advertises. Lol. You think like an end user not an OEM opportunist. Your stuck in...
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    Yamaha done with sleds

    We are referencing their engine division not pianos. We have to agree to disagree as I sold to OEMs for 35 years and I know from experience exactly how OEM products are marketed for customers specific applications. Yamaha would like nothing better than for the 998 to become the 4s standard big...
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    2025 Yamaha Snowmobile Speculation

    It will be blue and if anything special it will be an engine feature AC controls the chassis. ‍♂️
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    Yamaha done with sleds

    What do you do for a living if you don’t mind me asking? A lot more goes into an OEM sale than your are considering. It does NOT just happen on boats or snowmobiles like screwing in a light bulb and throwing the on switch. Believe me Yamaha cares how their engine products are being applied...
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    Yamaha done with sleds

    Then Yamaha is remiss in marketing their engine products. With your thinking every boat builder regardless of brand requested Yamaha outboard engines ,Yamaha doesn’t market directly to their OEM companies yet every other engine OEM does? Believe it Yamaha does market directly to snowmobile...
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    Yamaha done with sleds

    I would be very surprised if Yamaha doesn’t have a sales team assigned to Polaris , I would be very surprised if Yamaha doesn’t have a sales team assigned to Textron,Polaris and BRP. That’s standard procedure for any OEM looking to grow and expand their business.
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    It’s finally over for Yamaha

    I wouldn’t call it a hot seat. Simple for AC continue the procross and the Thundercat in multiple flavors or discontinue.
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    Yamaha done with sleds

    The last Apex orders were low. Sure diehard collectors will place orders for SWs but a lot depends on what happens to the Thundercat. AC could expand production with multi flavor Thundercats. AC likes to manufacture for AC customers could care less about manufacturing Yamaha units.
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    Market share

    Could be multi flavor Thundercats that Yamaha fans can roll into. If not then Skidoo picks up the Yamaha transitional market as the only quality new 4s sled product line. Polaris 4s sleds are a joke. Lol
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    Yamaha Snowmobile Division.... Mission/Vision Statement

    And that is what??
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    Yamaha Snowmobile Division.... Mission/Vision Statement

    Yamaha could have but didn’t acquire AC as a whole and it’s understandable why they only wanted the snow division. Years later and the snowmobile market can’t help but wonder where Yamaha would have taken the AC snowmobile division? I wonder but impossible to know. So now I wonder when the...
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    Yamaha Snowmobile Division.... Mission/Vision Statement

    Looks like AC did better with Textron new Catalyst platform and 2s lay down engines. Currently Yamaha is a small side business that seems to be happy with old technology. AC snowmobiles is in a good position Yamaha snowmobiles could be gone with a stroke of Textron pen and a very limited build.
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    Yamaha Snowmobile Division.... Mission/Vision Statement

    Yamaha is done manufacturing sleds the partnership with Textron continues if Yamaha has a new engine for the the Catalyst. Otherwise no future with long in the tooth procross.
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    2025 Yamaha sled release

    Nothing official that I’ve heard or seen from dealers or magazines.
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    2025 Yamaha sled release

    The future is new 4s engines for the Catalyst will it be a Yamaha 4s or a Textron 4s? Personally market wise less is more for me. I would be happy with a lightweight 140hp to 150 Hp 4s trail cruiser with push button power modes and smart shocks. I don’t need 180 -200 hp for trail riding and...
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    Klim Klimate vs Keweenaw

    Since this thread started seeing lots more FXR on the trail. Buddies converted from Klim to FXR. Like FXR better. Both good but FXR gaining market share.
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    24hr distance by one rider record broken

    Definitely cool
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    Food for thought/ 2023&2024 yamacat

    If there’s going to be a break it would happen when a new chassis is introduced. AC offers 1 model 9000 the TCat while all kinds of Yamaha SW variations. AC could easily produce those variations under the AC brand just rename them with color and new BNG. I would think Yamaha would be happy to...


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