mbw919
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I just got back from my dealer with a new handlebar for my '06 Vector GT. It's Yamaha part number 8FP-26100-00-KT, GRIP WARMER KIT. The description on the invoice lists it as an Apex handlebar. This is supposed to be an upgrade for some models that had grip warmer issues. I bought it because I wanted a bar with integrated hooks that have grips and warmers all the way to the end of the hooks and the $29.99 price was hard to pass up. The bar seems to have the same width and pull-back as the original but has less rise, so I'll need a riser block. It looks like about 2" would make up the difference but I'll take a closer look tomorrow. The grip warmer connectors are different but that's not a problem. I just wondered if anyone here has made this swap and has any words of advice.
BigDog05
VIP Member
I don't know the part number, but if they are the replacement bars, they don't get very warm, even with the small jumper set up.
Here is some good reading if have not seen these.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=50693
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=38153
Here is some good reading if have not seen these.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=50693
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=38153
mbw919
Pro
Thanks BigDog05, interesting reading indeed. I'll check the resistance of the heating elements on both bars and compare before the swap. Connecting them in parallel instead of series, like mentioned in those other posts, could double the amount of current drawn through the heating elements. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that.
It looks like the new bar would be 2 3/4" lower sitting in the stock clamps. I'm thinking of getting a 3 1/2" Rox pivoting riser to put the bar just slightly higher than stock and allow some fore/aft adjustment.
It looks like the new bar would be 2 3/4" lower sitting in the stock clamps. I'm thinking of getting a 3 1/2" Rox pivoting riser to put the bar just slightly higher than stock and allow some fore/aft adjustment.
Budweiser
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Keep us posted on your results. This is something I'm interested in doing as I like the hooked handlebars. I already have a 2 inch riser. My grip warmers are not the warmest either!!!
And you can't go wrong for $29.99!
And you can't go wrong for $29.99!
mbw919
Pro
I ordered a 3" pivot riser through the local dealer and won't have it until Monday or Wednesday depending on shipping and the holiday:
http://www.powermadd.com/products/unive ... ystem.html
Both the original Vector grip warmers and the replacement bar are wired in series and both measure about 3.5 ohms across both heating elements, so they should be electrically compatible. Whether they perform the same remains to be seen. I'll post back when the swap gets done. Until then, the stock bar is back in place and waiting for the 4-8" of snow that's supposed to arrive soon.
http://www.powermadd.com/products/unive ... ystem.html
Both the original Vector grip warmers and the replacement bar are wired in series and both measure about 3.5 ohms across both heating elements, so they should be electrically compatible. Whether they perform the same remains to be seen. I'll post back when the swap gets done. Until then, the stock bar is back in place and waiting for the 4-8" of snow that's supposed to arrive soon.
twomorestrokes
TY 4 Stroke God
Keep us posted. I am interested in your results also. I did the swap but am using an '06 Nytro bar that was removed from a sled that received the '07 upgrade and the heat sucks. I am still trying to get my hands on an upgrade bar with the jumper.
Bear in mind that after you do the swap with your new riser all of your harness plugs will no longer be hidden unless you reuse the big Vector pad. If you want the open look without the pad (like Nytro/Apex) you will need to either do some wiring work by soldering in some wire to extend the bar harnesses like I did, or order new Nytro stuff that already have the longer harnesses that will extend all of the plugs down below the cowl. The first option will be quite a bit of work, the second will be expensive. Easiest option would be to reuse the pad.
Bear in mind that after you do the swap with your new riser all of your harness plugs will no longer be hidden unless you reuse the big Vector pad. If you want the open look without the pad (like Nytro/Apex) you will need to either do some wiring work by soldering in some wire to extend the bar harnesses like I did, or order new Nytro stuff that already have the longer harnesses that will extend all of the plugs down below the cowl. The first option will be quite a bit of work, the second will be expensive. Easiest option would be to reuse the pad.
mbw919
Pro
The riser came in today so I swapped the bars and went for a short ride. The grip warmers work just fine and seem to heat up the same as the originals throughout the range of settings. The 3" pivoting riser puts the bars at the same height but allows more adjustment front to back. I set them almost 2" farther forward than the original bars could go. This seems to make steering easier when sitting down, although the view of the gauges and mirrors is compromised a little. I used the original handlebar pad so it still covers up all the connectors and has the small zippered pouch. The pad needs to be about 1" shorter between the grips for this bar but works ok the way it is. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to take some pictures in the daylight before the warm rain (yuck!) arrives this weekend.
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mbw919,
Why does the pad need to be shorter? What on the new bars forced you to move the controls closer together?
Why does the pad need to be shorter? What on the new bars forced you to move the controls closer together?
twomorestrokes
TY 4 Stroke God
Apex bar is not as wide as the Nytro bar. I hear it is about an inch shorter. Although I don't use it, the pad fits well between the controls with nytro bar.
what did you have to do to hook up the wiring on this bar
twomorestrokes
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mbw919
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PAvector said:
The distance between the inner ends of the grips is shorter on these bars compared to the originals.
mbw919
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woodtic said:
woodtic:
Like twomorestrokes, I replaced the connectors that came on the replacement bar with bullet connectors that matched the Vector wiring harness. Also soldered, covered with shrink tubing, and assembled with dielectric compound.
twomorestrokes:
Is 8FP-82318-10 in the picture below what you refer to as the "jumper"? I think that it just connects the heating elements in series, but I didn't confirm this before installation.
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twomorestrokes
TY 4 Stroke God
mbw919 said:
Yes, that is the jumper harness and you are right, it changes the '06 sleds from parallel back to series like the '05's and older.
