'08 to '09 front suspension changes

nate007 · Mar 20, 2008

I spoke with Rod at I.C. Motorsports today, and asked about the progress on the front end fixes for the '08 Nytros. He said that Yamaha is working on it, they have lots of customer and dealer feedback on the issue, but as of now they still don't have a service buletin. Expect one to come in the off season.
One little piece of info I found useful was that on the '09's there are 11 different changes/different parts used from the '08's. I didn't botther him too much as he was busy, but I'd like to find out how many people have learned of the specifics. From what I undestand, he didn't say you could just swap an '09 into the '08??
He did say that the skis have a shallower keel, and handle alot better than the old ones.
Progress!!!

Nytro40th · Mar 20, 2008

thanks for the info nate007

Scooter700 · Mar 20, 2008

Here is what I have learned on the 09 front suspension change.
1. Caster angle changed from 22 degree to 26 degree
2. Trail angle from 21.4mm at ski bottom to 42.5mm at ski bottom
3. Relocate tie rod on spindle to improve bump stability
4. Changed 10 components
5. Was told the 09 would Not fit the 08

;)!

08 FX Nytro lover · Mar 20, 2008

good job nate

YamaMikeRTX · Mar 20, 2008

this is killing me. Should i keep the 08 or upgrade to 09?? Either way all I know is this winter was by far the most fun due to the nytro! I couldn't go next year w/o one!!

nate007 · Mar 20, 2008

I was assured that there will be a cure for the '08's and I'm thinkning I may sell the Apex, and end up with my Nytro 40th and an XTX?? I wouldn't get discouraged with the '08's. They'll come up with something I'm sure. I'm keeping mine.

Tork · Mar 20, 2008

I think there is a decent chance of that also Nate. But I would almost guarantee it wont happen before summer or fall.

MadMax · Mar 21, 2008

I rode them both back to back and "YES" the 09 is far better............................................................................."PERIOD". MM.

BLUEBALLER · Mar 21, 2008

Yeah, there will be a "cure", but at what cost? and who's picking up the tab? that's what I'm waiting to find out! there may be an '09 in my garage next year if yammy turns a blind eye on '08 owners.

Bbrew · Mar 21, 2008

BLUEBALLER said:
Yeah, there will be a "cure", but at what cost? and who's picking up the tab? that's what I'm waiting to find out! there may be an '09 in my garage next year if yammy turns a blind eye on '08 owners.

Here another one for the rumor mill, for what it's worth:

I was told by a factory rep at the show in Midland 3/20/08 there will be a front suspension update kit coming around this august for a "very resonable price". However, he would not comment on what the kit consisted of, just that it is supposed to address the 08 suspension issues.

pro116 · Mar 22, 2008

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Superman · Mar 22, 2008

YamaMikeRTX said:
this is killing me. Should i keep the 08 or upgrade to 09?? Either way all I know is this winter was by far the most fun due to the nytro! I couldn't go next year w/o one!!

Oh man. Your not kidding. I won't know if I'll do a 09 until the last day.

PONY2008 · Mar 23, 2008

WHEN YOU GUYS SAY THAT YAMAHA IS GOING TO COME OUT WITH A FIX FOR THE 08 SUSPENSION ISSUES, IS THAT GOING TO FIX THE DARTING ISSSUE OR THE HARSHNESS OF THE REAR SUSPENSION????? ANY FEED BACK WOULD BE GREAT

pro116 · Mar 23, 2008

The new 09 geometry is supposed to halp the darting issue.As fasr as the harsch rear suspension.That's in the rider suspension adjustment.You need to adjust it they don't NOT ride harsh if set up correctly.

yamy07 · Mar 23, 2008

I disagree. Mine is very harsh over the stutters - yet bottoms easily on bigger bumps. I don't believe this can be tuned out with any setup changes, believe me- I've tried.
Somewhere on here I read an excellent thread on shock valving - mine will be re-valved with 3 stage valving this off season.
Other than that & the worthless handwarmers - I'm really happy with my sled.
Oh yea -my front end is tweaked also - although it doesn't seem to affect handling.

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