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This quote and suckurs post stating the XF 800 e start is 26lbs. has me having to ask both of you if you are saying the new 4 stroke powered vipercat and the cat 800 2 stroke will weigh close to the same???? please post your math again. boy, by golly i hope you guys are correct :jump...

did you click on the + (zoom) once the pic is up? I couldn't read it either without .

a studded track weighs less than a non-studded track? are we talking same paddle length?

says it weighs 478 pounds is 143 HP and changes colors to suit yur moods....go nuts....LOL :jump: :sled1: :jump: :sled1: :-o :sled1: :jump:

i'm thinking most buyers will go for the LTX and RTX leaving the base model available.

If things go well for the vipercat i might pick up a NOS base viper shorty next summer.

Thems some a the best graphics wraps I have seem...IMO. sorenson1610... what front end kit is that and is it worth the buckaroos? BTW i have the same skis and like them...just on the fence as to whether or not to invest in the forward front kit.

OK so now that you see my point... and you all are saying no one who bought a viper cares about top end, then why didn't the sled mag report on it now instead a later...no freedom of the press when it comes to sled mags and websites?...LOL You all know if the viper was ahead or held its own...

My wife likes the candy red Yamaha has used on the 4 strokes. Maybe it wouldn't be that expensive to recoat if the plastic is already factory coated.

you will have a great high performance 4 stroke motor...1st one in history built for snowmobiling...lets see if the Cat chassis is worthy...LOL

"Yamaha just got access to the chassis," NO....sorry.....yamaha and Cat have been working hand in hand for over 2 years as has been told on here...TY... since the Feb. unveiling of the Yamacat....2 years minimum...730 days....

but seriously....the Nytro must have totally embarrassed the Viper in the head to head drag race otherwise a sled mag that gleens its revenue from its advertisers latest and GREATEST would have happily boasted of the new lovechilds prowess in a head to head match up...of which NO ONE has posted...

My buddy love his electric ohlins rear shocked apex, but of course it doesn't change transfer.

Didn't know it was tried on a cat....what year/model? I'm thinking a couple small servos with a simple in and out travel on the arm or rail.

congrats...hope it is great. I'd order one for the wife except she's not fond of the colors and oh, yea...it is tax time and I owe the feds about half the cost of a new yamacat. :o| ;):D #$%&*

I'd love a sled that could turn the transfer on and off with a handlebar switch for all the conditions in a days ride.

that qwik release seat could of saved countless hours while changing out exhaust donuts on the yammies, eh?

so that doesn't just happen to the yamasleds...HMMMM.