A little advice needed.

[slimjim2525]

I am loyal to Yamaha. Have 2 2011 Apex's. I love them, the problem is as i'm getting older, last year on my Apex my knees and hips would ache on long days, and i believe it may be due to sitting so low and my knees are above my hips. Therefore looking into a Viper. Will this help my situation do you think, or is it just getting old no matter what? I really love EPS, are these things tough to steer? Any other advice. Thanks.

 

[MrSled]

I am loyal to Yamaha. Have 2 2011 Apex's. I love them, the problem is as i'm getting older, last year on my Apex my knees and hips would ache on long days, and i believe it may be due to sitting so low and my knees are above my hips. Therefore looking into a Viper. Will this help my situation do you think, or is it just getting old no matter what? I really love EPS, are these things tough to steer? Any other advice. Thanks.

Add a WRP seat? That will raise you up 2" The viper will help some of you are shorter. Im 6-2 and I find my knees touching the front plastic all the time.

 

[Studroes144]

Add a WRP seat? That will raise you up 2" The viper will help some of you are shorter. Im 6-2 and I find my knees touching the front plastic all the time.

At 6' my knees are always up against the panels as well, it was the first thing I disliked about my viper and is now one of the main things I love about it. Almost seems as though it keeps me more locked into the sled and keeps me and the machine more balanced. I really struggle trading off and going back to the old seating position of the apex.

 

[Muffin]

The riding position on all the modern sleds favor an active rider and are comfy, for shorter riders. I agree with Mr Sled, tall guys suffer a little.

 

[Oldexciter]

A vendor on the site sells a kit that helps raise the seat.. He sells the WRP seat kit which will help with that. I'm 6'5 so my knees are always on something haha

 

[RJH]

I drove my friends Apex last winter..couldn't get back on my Viper fast enough..I am 6'1" still

 

[RxSly]

I am 5,9 and going from my rx-1 to the viper made a world of difference!

Eve just on short rides my knees would hurt and feel "cold" but not on the viper.

 

[ishpeming fan]

im 5 6" and when riding hard my knees are glued to front cowling under the bars.It just depends on your pace and riding style. If your just kicking back taking in the sights then very easy on the knees,riding with your buds at a high rate of speed then your knees will be as far forward as possible for front end bite to stick in the corners.

 

[DGZRT]

You can try to add foam yourself ! I just did 2 Vectors and the Apex can't be that much harder.
Total cost was around 50$ for both. I purchased 1" thick Rebond foam

on line and glued two 1" pc's together with 3m

Next I traced the seat out

on top and cut to fit. It looks like an hour glass shape when done. One tip is to use a 4" grinder to round the edges and bevel the front of the foam where it will meet the gas tank.

Next I flipped the seat over and removed the staples.. Tip; use a pointed scratch awl for the staples and work on the corners to pry one side up. Then pull out with needle nose pliers . You only have to remove the staples down to the corner in my picture. I then peeled back the Vinyl and lifted the seat foam off the seat pan. I inserted the foam on the pan and test fit the piece. After beveling the front some more I used the #77 adhesive to mount my foam on the seat pan and put the old foam back over. I did remove the front lip of the old foam by the Gas tank about 1" back so the vinyl would stretch easier.

I then flipped it back over and working from back to the front I re-stapled it down. Tip only use 1/4" staples so they won't poke through the plastic . 5/16" staples did ! I have about 5 hours in total for both.
By adding the foam to the seat pan and putting the old foam on top of it . This holds the original shape much better.

Everyone that has sat on the seats likes it so much better !

 

[Oldexciter]

Wow that's a really cool tip!! I may have to try that on my nytro. I ordered the WRP seat for the RX1.. any way you could send me some pictures of the finished product on the sled??

 

[DGZRT]

Only pictures I have for now.

 

[DGZRT]

http://www.thefoamfactory.com/opencellfoam/rebond.html

Link for the Foam & the 3M adhesive. Just thought it would help ! You could do at least 3 seats with a half sheet of 1" thick ...

 

[Mtnviper]

Only pictures I have for now.

That looks great, nicely done!

Bill

 

[larrypolaris]

I am loyal to Yamaha. Have 2 2011 Apex's. I love them, the problem is as i'm getting older, last year on my Apex my knees and hips would ache on long days, and i believe it may be due to sitting so low and my knees are above my hips. Therefore looking into a Viper. Will this help my situation do you think, or is it just getting old no matter what? I really love EPS, are these things tough to steer? Any other advice. Thanks.

I am in my late 50's. We ride lots of big mile days, especially in the UP of MI. We did a 280 mile day last season.
The ergonomics of the Vipers are sweet. I've had two knee surgeries(torn meniscus). I wear knee braces just for extra support.
Never had any knee aches riding.

 

[walter]

Viper is where it is at, best seating I've had on a sled yet for sure. Especially with stage 2 turbo couldn't be happier