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Maybe something that will fit in Catalyst chassis?
From Yamaha:
Class-Leading 999-cc Parallel Twin Engine
The Wolverine X2 1000 R-Spec features a Proven Off-Road 999cc DOHC, eight-valve, parallel twin-cylinder powerplant based on its premium RMAX 1000 sibling, revving to an 8,500 rpm redline and delivering big power, smooth performance and legendary Yamaha reliability.
Yamaha Chip Controlled-Throttle (YCC-T).
From Yamaha:
Class-Leading 999-cc Parallel Twin Engine
The Wolverine X2 1000 R-Spec features a Proven Off-Road 999cc DOHC, eight-valve, parallel twin-cylinder powerplant based on its premium RMAX 1000 sibling, revving to an 8,500 rpm redline and delivering big power, smooth performance and legendary Yamaha reliability.
Yamaha Chip Controlled-Throttle (YCC-T).


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It would be nice to see that relationship continue



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I enjoyed my Suzuki twin in my old ZR9. That engine was a beast. My dealer says that the Acat Yamaha deal with the new owners is 5 years. We will see what happens. Cat needs either find a twin or widen the bulkhead on the Catalyst chassis to accomodate the 998. I think they will widen the bulkhead. I also think Cat needs to bring the new rear suspension they have under development to the market.


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The relationship is what killed it for Me!It would be nice to see that relationship continue



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The relationship is what killed it for Me!
Without the relationship we likely would have never seen another model beyond the deltabox. Yamaha simply isn't interested in chasing small markets.


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it is what kept me on a Yamaha!!!!!The relationship is what killed it for Me!

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it is what kept me on a Yamaha!!!!!
Same. Yamaha simply had nothing for me till the 998 turbo and the handling and ride fixes Cat came with on the ProCross chassis. Still IMO the best on the market to this day if you want a four-stroke. I kept going back to the 1200 Doo till I saw how great the 17 was in LE guise with the QS3R's on it. No going back to the Doos after that for me. Yamaha just could build a chassis that handled, rode well and was actually fun to ride in all conditions. The Apex was fine on big groomed trails and that is where it ended. It was not good on anything else or small trails.
Plus I don't ever want a four-stroke twin cylinder lawn mower sounding engine in a snowmobile ever again after owning the 1100 turbo Suzuki twin. I thought it was pretty poor to be honest. Yes, it was fast when tuned, but sounded terrible along with not being very responsive like the 998 is. Perhaps I didn't like it because the ProCross was also poor before Cat refined it and made it handle and ride better, but the twin still sounded awful somewhat like a sad/sick cow.


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Artic crap main goal was to take Yamaha out with this relationship, It only took them 11 years to do so. Yamaha built snowmobiles for 50 years before this relationship, 11 years later there done because of the relationship! Pretty easy to figure out what caused it!
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You mean Artic crap. Artic crap chassis with a Yamaha engine is still a Artic crap, Ford Mustang with a Big Block Chevy engine is still a Mustang right.it is what kept me on a Yamaha!!!!!



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Artic crap main goal was to take Yamaha out with this relationship, It only took them 7 years to do so. Yamaha built snowmobiles for 50 years before this relationship, 7 years later there done because of the relationship! Pretty easy to figure out what caused it!
You honestly believe that AC partnered with Yamaha so that they could take them out of the relationship ? How does that even make sense. AC was struggling, Yamaha wanted out of the business. A tiny company like AC who was already struggling, needed a lifeline. Yamaha who has a brand presence in the business and an investment in the new engine, needed a way out. I am sure that AC was not the only company yamaha had a conversation with.
Arctic Cat didn’t “take out” Yamaha; both companies were navigating a declining snowmobile market. The partnership was a mutual attempt to stay viable on their own timelines, with Yamaha leveraging Arctic Cat’s chassis to maintain a presence while minimizing costs and maximizing the viable return on investment already sunk into the 998. Yamaha’s exit was a strategic decision driven by market trends, not a conspiracy by Arctic Cat. The broader shift to UTVs/ATVs reflects where the powersports industry is heading, and Yamaha’s diversified portfolio positions them well to thrive there. Arctic Cat, unfortunately, lacked the resources to pivot as effectively as evidenced by their recent sale to a much smaller brand.


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After my last Apex, a 2011 EPS model, I was over that chassis. I needed something better. The Pro-Cross with a Yamaha engine provided it.You mean Artic crap. Artic crap chassis with a Yamaha engine is still a Artic crap, Ford Mustang with a Big Block Chevy engine is still a Mustang right.
I always bought Yamaha sleds for the engine anyway and modified the chassis to my liking. I never had a Yamaha sled that I didn't have to heavily modify the chassis and/or shocks to make it acceptable and reliable.
Yamaha could have built a better chassis but chose not to, for whatever reason.
Ford Mustang with a Big Block Chevy engine is still a Mustang right-----poor comparison. Companies have been buying motors off other manufacture's since the beginning of the the industry. Doesn't bother me.
what is a Ford with a Yamaha engine? An S.H.O. Taurus
What is a A/C motor cars chassis with a Ford engine? A Cobra!!
Polaris had Fuji engines, Ski-Doo had Rotax engines, which they later purchased. Who cares?

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After my last Apex, a 2011 EPS model, I was over that chassis. I needed something better. The Pro-Cross with a Yamaha engine provided it.
I always bought Yamaha sleds for the engine anyway and modified the chassis to my liking. I never had a Yamaha sled that I didn't have to heavily modify the chassis and/or shocks to make it acceptable and reliable.
Yamaha could have built a better chassis but chose not to, for whatever reason.
Ford Mustang with a Big Block Chevy engine is still a Mustang right-----poor comparison. Companies have been buying motors off other manufacture's since the beginning of the the industry. Doesn't bother me.
what is a Ford with a Yamaha engine? An S.H.O. Taurus
What is a A/C motor cars chassis with a Ford engine? A Cobra!!
Polaris had Fuji engines, Ski-Doo had Rotax engines, which they later purchased. Who cares?
HaHa,
Same! I bought a 2011 Apex EPS sled and sent it down the road with just less than 400 miles on it. I didn't like that tank and neither did anyone in my family after riding the lightweight and fun Doo 1200's. In fact went back to a older 09 Doo 1200, but did the same with a 2012 Cat turbo 1100 ProCross too with just 800 miles on it. Cat didn't get it right till 2017.


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what is a Ford with a Yamaha engine? An S.H.O. TaurusAfter my last Apex, a 2011 EPS model, I was over that chassis. I needed something better. The Pro-Cross with a Yamaha engine provided it.
I always bought Yamaha sleds for the engine anyway and modified the chassis to my liking. I never had a Yamaha sled that I didn't have to heavily modify the chassis and/or shocks to make it acceptable and reliable.
Yamaha could have built a better chassis but chose not to, for whatever reason.
Ford Mustang with a Big Block Chevy engine is still a Mustang right-----poor comparison. Companies have been buying motors off other manufacture's since the beginning of the the industry. Doesn't bother me.
what is a Ford with a Yamaha engine? An S.H.O. Taurus
What is a A/C motor cars chassis with a Ford engine? A Cobra!!
Polaris had Fuji engines, Ski-Doo had Rotax engines, which they later purchased. Who cares?
What is a A/C motor cars chassis with a Ford engine? A Cobra!!
Polaris had Fuji engines, Ski-Doo had Rotax engines, which they later purchased. Who cares?
I do!
Poor comparison!
What ever! My wife and I will still ride our over 20,000 mile junk all Yamaha Apex's!
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Triples have always sounded the best with off-road toys.Same. Yamaha simply had nothing for me till the 998 turbo and the handling and ride fixes Cat came with on the ProCross chassis. Still IMO the best on the market to this day if you want a four-stroke. I kept going back to the 1200 Doo till I saw how great the 17 was in LE guise with the QS3R's on it. No going back to the Doos after that for me. Yamaha just could build a chassis that handled, rode well and was actually fun to ride in all conditions. The Apex was fine on big groomed trails and that is where it ended. It was not good on anything else or small trails.
Plus I don't ever want a four-stroke twin cylinder lawn mower sounding engine in a snowmobile ever again after owning the 1100 turbo Suzuki twin. I thought it was pretty poor to be honest. Yes, it was fast when tuned, but sounded terrible along with not being very responsive like the 998 is. Perhaps I didn't like it because the ProCross was also poor before Cat refined it and made it handle and ride better, but the twin still sounded awful somewhat like a sad/sick cow.
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Also it's going to be really interesting to see if cat builds their own four stroke twin. They apparently had a design for it. But with the Yamaha engine alliance why go forward with it?
I believe Darling was one of the stars for the partnership between the two. Hopefully Darling can salvage the relationship textron did so well to wreck. With argo in the back pocket the two of them could really carve out a big chunk in the sxs and especially the hunting market.
Seeing argo's at Cabela's will be a cash cow for cat. There is so much potential for growth with the two.
I believe Darling was one of the stars for the partnership between the two. Hopefully Darling can salvage the relationship textron did so well to wreck. With argo in the back pocket the two of them could really carve out a big chunk in the sxs and especially the hunting market.
Seeing argo's at Cabela's will be a cash cow for cat. There is so much potential for growth with the two.
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