yamahahaapex
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Hi all.
Stock primary spring, dalton b/o at 6-1. Xs825 belt. 77.4g with a 3/4” slug in heel. 1/4” slug in tip. 33/35 helix.
I did have these weights preset by hurricane with a 1” slug in heel followed by a 1/2” slug snugged right up to it. 240-270-300 tune. On 270 coming out about 8800. Back shifts and falls on face at 8300.
I seen RockerDan has a beautiful you tube video about running a 1/2 slug in heel and 1/4 in tip. Seemed to be ok with it. All clutch kits I’ve ever had seemed that the tip always remained empty. Yet. My original setup I’m clearly too heavy as after the back shift there’s not much happening.
just curious if anyone else is running weight in the tip on a tune or is that weight buried in the heel?
Stock primary spring, dalton b/o at 6-1. Xs825 belt. 77.4g with a 3/4” slug in heel. 1/4” slug in tip. 33/35 helix.
I did have these weights preset by hurricane with a 1” slug in heel followed by a 1/2” slug snugged right up to it. 240-270-300 tune. On 270 coming out about 8800. Back shifts and falls on face at 8300.
I seen RockerDan has a beautiful you tube video about running a 1/2 slug in heel and 1/4 in tip. Seemed to be ok with it. All clutch kits I’ve ever had seemed that the tip always remained empty. Yet. My original setup I’m clearly too heavy as after the back shift there’s not much happening.
just curious if anyone else is running weight in the tip on a tune or is that weight buried in the heel?
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I'm running all the weight in the tip.
I think you have your heel and tip backwards too. Hurricane puts the weight all the up to the tip and nothing in the heel.
The heel is back at the pivot point where you screw in the weight. The tip is the end of the weight all the way to the end where the weight bottoms out in the end of the weight.
Sounds like you have some changes to make to get it right. First thing is to get rid of that reverse helix and get something in there that not a reverse helix. Is this the sled that's not building boost?
I think you have your heel and tip backwards too. Hurricane puts the weight all the up to the tip and nothing in the heel.
The heel is back at the pivot point where you screw in the weight. The tip is the end of the weight all the way to the end where the weight bottoms out in the end of the weight.
Sounds like you have some changes to make to get it right. First thing is to get rid of that reverse helix and get something in there that not a reverse helix. Is this the sled that's not building boost?
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I echo mr Knapp.
I run the same goodies as you with the exception of the helix. just a 1/4" slug in the tip. hurricane 270 tune. RPM is bang on.
I run the same goodies as you with the exception of the helix. just a 1/4" slug in the tip. hurricane 270 tune. RPM is bang on.
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Ok so I have question on the 33/35 this is what I'm running in my stock Winder with orange TP spring everything else is stock. It seems to be working pretty decent. I know that everyone has there opion on clutching and there are many different ways to get there. So am I leaving something on the table with this helix. I'm not an expert in the clutching field but do know my way around I guess my question is what are the advantage and disadvantages of useing this helix. It jumps to 9050 and then settles down to 8850/8900 with stock 8jp. I see that you are telling Yamahaapex to get rid of it.
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For a stock winder, the reverse helix works great! Tuned winders like a progressive helix.
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That's what I thought I will be adding a tune next season and will then follow there recommendations for clutching.
yamahahaapex
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Yes this is the sled not making boost
. I had a 1" slug and a 1/2" slug buried in the "tip" I suppose with some issues there from when I got the kit. Seeing this, I think the way the weights were set up at 80g its just too much for it considering I'm about a 1lb short in boost at 270. Plan of action now is to leave the 3/4" slug in the tip and start there with thought to placing the 1" slug in there considering I run on the 270 most of the time. Prior too, 1" and a 1/2" slug in the tip I would see 8800-8850 in the hole, backshift and then couldn't climb much higher than 8300. Hoping now moving to a 3/4" slug in the heel that it might wake the machine up a bit more. Also moving to a progressive 37/35 helix might be in the cards for the future as well based on your observations and knowledge(which is appreciated)Looking to sell the 33/35 helix as well if anyone is interested.
