rkkoeb
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So I have purchased a 09 Apex and today I took if for a nice long ride. We did about 125 miles but I notice when I take corners I am getting a major amount of inside ski lift which causes some steering issues. What causes this and what do I need to do to correct the problem?
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are you leaning to the inside on the corners? really helps. just moving your shoulders to the inside on the corners makes a huge difference.
rkkoeb
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Yes I did notice if I am leaning it is better
I'd make a transfer rod adjustment. I like the inside ski lift this also helps keep the steering lighter on the real twisty stuff at slower speeds that don't pick up ski. As stated above these sled respond well to driver input.
Did you do your sit in adjustment?
Did you do your sit in adjustment?
rkkoeb
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What type of settings should the transfer rod be set at and how do u adjust
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https://ty4stroke.com/threads/apex-mono-shock-set-up-procedure.151378/ for the mono shock sleds.
Is the sled stock or does it have a stiffer sway bar? What skis and carbides does it have? What are you comparing this sled too?
For me personally I love inside ski lift. This indicates to me that my sled is hooked into the trail and I can accelerate out of the corner. Something you have to get used to if you are coming from a completely different sled.
Leaning helps alot. Meaning your a$$ is on the side of the seat not simply shifted on the top.
Transfer rod setting will help keep both skis planted or in the air while under acceleration. I have mine set close to the middle favoring the "min" side which helps my sled rail thru the trails.
For me personally I love inside ski lift. This indicates to me that my sled is hooked into the trail and I can accelerate out of the corner. Something you have to get used to if you are coming from a completely different sled.
Leaning helps alot. Meaning your a$$ is on the side of the seat not simply shifted on the top.
Transfer rod setting will help keep both skis planted or in the air while under acceleration. I have mine set close to the middle favoring the "min" side which helps my sled rail thru the trails.
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It's common on these Apex/Attak Vectors. There are stiffer sway bars to help but you'll still get it compared to others.
I came from a 2003 Vmax 600ER and noticed the difference right away. Actually rolled it first day out.
But now after 14 yrs and about 35k miles on them I've adjusted and live with the con of this design.
I came from a 2003 Vmax 600ER and noticed the difference right away. Actually rolled it first day out.
But now after 14 yrs and about 35k miles on them I've adjusted and live with the con of this design.
When front stops compressing on outside swaybar is not doing its job anymore. So softer front helps not stiffer. Two ways to corner. Rail it and come out hard which requires getting butt off seat and way forward or dirt track it sliding back end under power. Is good to practice both in case one doesn’t work. Good to have options in a corner.
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Agree with Steiner. On my APEX I call it the 1 cheek ride......meaning to push it I slide my butt to the inside and have just 1 cheek on the seat.
Like others have said I got used to the inside light feel and did NOT go with stiffer sway bar as some reported rougher front end feel through the bars and my preference is SMOOTH.
Really not the beginning of a ‘TIP OVER” just becomes the ‘set’ attitude of the sled while cornering under power.
Like others have said I got used to the inside light feel and did NOT go with stiffer sway bar as some reported rougher front end feel through the bars and my preference is SMOOTH.
Really not the beginning of a ‘TIP OVER” just becomes the ‘set’ attitude of the sled while cornering under power.
rkkoeb
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I am running a set of stock skis with Snowtrackers Skags (semi agreesive). I have the preload on my front shocks set soft to the point my arms are horazotal with the floor. I up graded my front shocks to GYTR and they were rebuild before the start of the season. For my rears suspension I have the limiter straped pulled up to the final hole. My rear shock has also been rebuilt early this year. I am running 144 studs. I have never done any work to the transfer rod but I also don't know what the current setting is at from the previous owner. I am 53 years old and geared up abougt 220 lbs.
rkkoeb
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I would say that I am no longer an agresive rider when it comes into the corners but still hae a ton of ski lift at even lower speeds. Sled feels very tippy, I do also have a 3" higher seat on so I am sure this doesn't help
rkkoeb
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What should be the recommend setting be on the transfer rod and how do you adjust it?
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Take out all the preload on your front shocks. With weight off the front end, loosen the shock collars completely then tighten just enough so the springs don't move up and down. This should bring the front end down and level the a-arms. 13mm sway bar from Barn of Parts.
