Apex Warrior 2008 Heavy Hitter setup

[robboyd]

Hi,
I have an Apex Warrior 2008 (Sweden) and just bought the HHY53 Heavy Hitter kit (53.4 g base weight). I have tried the base setup for Apex 2008 published at Fett Bros homepage. The machine will not go over 10100-10200 rpm. And when I think about the setup it feels totally wrong to place the heaviest weight at Hole #3(tip) and the lightest in Hole #1 (knee/heel). Shouldnt it be the total opposite?...eg. place more mass in Hole #1 and Hole #2 and then put some lighter weight in Hole #3...or am I missing something here?

What config are you guys using for agressive trailriding?

Next weekend I will the following configuration (Total weight 60.8 g):
Hole #1: 1/2 Socket Allen bolt
Hole #2: Steel bolt 3/8 head with a Thick Steel Washer
Hole #3: Aluminum bolt 3/8 head with Thin Brass Washer

Should't we have some matrix to share our setups?

/Regards Rob

 

[wth]

You have a PM

 

[Yamzilla]

Hi,
I have an Apex Warrior 2008 (Sweden) and just bought the HHY53 Heavy Hitter kit (53.4 g base weight). I have tried the base setup for Apex 2008 published at Fett Bros homepage. The machine will not go over 10100-10200 rpm. And when I think about the setup it feels totally wrong to place the heaviest weight at Hole #3(tip) and the lightest in Hole #1 (knee/heel). Shouldnt it be the total opposite?...eg. place more mass in Hole #1 and Hole #2 and then put some lighter weight in Hole #3...or am I missing something here?

What config are you guys using for agressive trailriding?

Next weekend I will the following configuration (Total weight 60.8 g):
Hole #1: 1/2 Socket Allen bolt
Hole #2: Steel bolt 3/8 head with a Thick Steel Washer
Hole #3: Aluminum bolt 3/8 head with Thin Brass Washer

Should't we have some matrix to share our setups?

/Regards Rob

It's really up to you as to how you want to approach it. I started out by going with weight only at the tip and ended up completely opposite. The goal is to hit your target shift rpm throughout your entire shift. However, some like to hit the target and then have it climb somewhat towards the end...that's how I'm going. If you're a trail rider then I'd try loading the heel up and working your way towards the tip. That approach will tend to pull the rpm's down and cruise settings. However, when you stab the throttle you still want to nail the backshift. Keep it balanced.

 

[robboyd]

Ok. What can i expect from this setup in comparison to Fett Bros setup:

My setup
(Total weight 60.7 g):
Hole #1: 3/4 Socket Allen bolt
Hole #2: Aluminum bolt 3/8 head with two Thin Brass Washers
Hole #3: Aluminum bolt 3/8 head with one Thin Brass Washer


Fett Bros:
Hole #1: 1/4" allen screw
Hole #2: 3/8" aluminum fastener + thin washer
Hole #3: 3/8" steel fastener + thick washer

/Rob

 

[Turk]

I ran a set in my 07attak have
3/4 allen in heel
3/8 steel & thick washer inner
al bolt & thick washer in tip.

 

[robboyd]

That sounds more like my own thoughts with more mass in the heel. Have to try that.
But maybe there is some difference in gearing between u.s -and swedish machines?

/Rob

 

[robboyd]

Another question. How much is the maximum weight i should put in my Heavy Hitter setup? I have been told that 61 grams (53.4 gram base) is the maximum and with that trying to move mass around between the heel and tip.

 

[Turk]

The set up i gave you was for 48 gram hh,s so you might have to lighten em up. I ran 48 gr hh,s in my turbo at 12 pounds boost & had em loaded up to over 70 grams.

 

[Frostbite]

I'm going back through my RX-1M notes with my heavy hitters. Remember this setup was before the shcokwave helix with a Dalton 54/42 progressive helix and from 3,000 to 7,000 feet. These notes are from 04.

Put the 1/4" allen into the heel tightly and seat the 3/4" in right on top of it tightly in each weight.

Use a 7/16 steel in the middle with 2 thin (ot thick) steel washers.

In the tip use a 7/16" steel with a thin steel washer.

I see I was pulling 10,700 at 3,000 feet and 10,400 at 6,000 feet.

I was using a yamaha silver secondary spring at 80 degrees.

I was using a Yamaha Orange/Silver/Orange primary spring with three spring shims.

The weights weight 62.7 grams each.

Good luck

Frosty

 

[robboyd]

Thanks, but it feels wrong to compare a setup for a 04 RX Mountain with a setup for a 08 Apex Attak(Warrior).
Isn´t there some other guys with proven setups for 06-08 Apex out there?

/Rob