Barn of Parts Driveshaft Saver....Bearing Lock

[Redbeard]

I don't own a Sidewinder / Viper, but I've been watching this thread since the beginning. Whether this device ultimately works or not (I think it will), Travis' time and endeavors are worth a notable commendation. I truly appreciate what you're trying to accomplish, Travis!

 

[stevewithOCD]

I don't own a Sidewinder / Viper, but I've been watching this thread since the beginning. Whether this device ultimately works or not (I think it will), Travis' time and endeavors are worth a notable commendation. I truly appreciate what you're trying to accomplish, Travis!

I talked to travis today just to break his balls. He's so nice i ordered over $200 of his stuff. He didn't even charge me more for throwing TY diggs at him.
You may think he's working hard, but if you enjoy what you do, you never work a day in your life. And HE's having fun!
He reminds of Caractacus Potts from "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"

P.S: If you don't know what Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is, it's after 9pm and your mom says it's bedtime
P.S2: I swear from 1970 until the 80's i watched that movie every year........including Midway, Wizard of Oz & The Ten Commandments
P.S3: I was the kid that had to hold the bunny ears.............for the whole FREAKIN' movie!

 

[stevewithOCD]

P.S: If you don't know what bunny ears are....................ask SIRI you spoiled millennium

 

[maim]

P.S: If you don't know what bunny ears are....................ask SIRI you spoiled millennium

this made me chuckle. not enough tinfoil on them?

 

[stevewithOCD]

Where was Travis in my youth?
Maybe he could have invented the remote, since i was my Dad's remote. It was like wind sprints for me in the living room.

I ordered one of these new fangled BOP Shaft McWedgy Thingies. We'll call it the BOP SMT for short

 

[1nc 2000]

New
Last post of the day. The inconsistency of this not working at same torque on even same shaft was really bothering me. For instance I could set it to 50ft lbs and get it to hold. Then I would release the wedge and re torqe to 50 ft lbs and then bearing would fall off! I thought maybe wedge was wearing a bit or compressing a bit...but measurements indicated that's not the case. Got to thinking and each new assembly would set initially at a low torque and then require more torque each time after. I wandered if the friction from threads, wedge and bolt head were prematurely tripping the torque wrench. On the first seating I think the residual lubricant/cutting oil relieved some friction and after one seating it was no longer present. To test the theory I applied some grease to threads, wedge ramps and face where bolt spins and I can now consistently get the bearing snug at only 25-30 ft lbs! Ah....now I can sleep. Will make a new installation overview video tomorrow.

Awesome! A little lube on the threads always increases the torque and keeps it consistent. Almost every engine builder uses lube on the threads for this reason.

 

[Turboflash]

I have never had that assembly apart so it is hard for me to visualize what is going on there.

For those that haven't seen this caliper housing and bearing first hand, I've attached a couple of pics. First pic shows side of caliper that is against tunnel (after install). 2nd pic is what you see after removing brake rotor, and 3rd shows track shaft protruding from tunnel after removing caliper. Line hanging down in pic 3 is brake line after disconnecting it to remove caliper.

 

[Turboflash]

New
Last post of the day. The inconsistency of this not working at same torque on even same shaft was really bothering me. For instance I could set it to 50ft lbs and get it to hold. Then I would release the wedge and re torqe to 50 ft lbs and then bearing would fall off! I thought maybe wedge was wearing a bit or compressing a bit...but measurements indicated that's not the case. Got to thinking and each new assembly would set initially at a low torque and then require more torque each time after. I wandered if the friction from threads, wedge and bolt head were prematurely tripping the torque wrench. On the first seating I think the residual lubricant/cutting oil relieved some friction and after one seating it was no longer present. To test the theory I applied some grease to threads, wedge ramps and face where bolt spins and I can now consistently get the bearing snug at only 25-30 ft lbs! Ah....now I can sleep. Will make a new installation overview video tomorrow.

Great job Travis. I was thinking of applying some anti-seize to both the threads and surfaces where wedge slides against fingers when I install it anyway. Thanks for all your hard and persistant work!!

 

[hibshman25]

Here's a new overview/install video.

 

[ROCKERDAN]

Nice work Travis....Good video overview brother!

Dan

 

[Winderallday!]

Subscribed!
Observation: Travis held the drive shaft with his left hand to torque the wedge in place, but the handy flats on the device meant for an open end wrench to oppose the torque when tightening is great idea for the lone wrenchers out there without 4 arms! Great R&D project Travis!

 

[FrozenTows4]

P.S: If you don't know what bunny ears are....................ask SIRI you spoiled millennium

Must depend on what part of the country you're from.
Bunny Ears/Rabbit Ears
Casserole/Hot Dish
Pop/Soda/Coke
Sled/Snow Machine


And Excellent work Travis! Every ProCross sled should have one of these.

 

[Sevey]

Subscribed!
Observation: Travis held the drive shaft with his left hand to torque the wedge in place, but the handy flats on the device meant for an open end wrench to oppose the torque when tightening is great idea for the lone wrenchers out there without 4 arms! Great R&D project Travis!

Thanks for pointing that out.
I was wonder how to get a hold of that - looking at drive shaft that is not square like a nytros that you could get a crescent wrench on.
Good design.
MS

 

[02ViperMody44]

Travis, would you still use any sort of "loctite" on the bearing? or just run it metal to metal?

 

[Turboflash]

From the video, it sounded like Travis thought it would be best to not over-tighten the wedge so as to not "lock" it to the bearing. Tight enough to prevent the track shaft from spinning in it, but loose enough that it could move (albeit with some force) if need be. Seems like assembling with loctite would lock the bearing onto the shaft and not allow any movement. Do we know for sure if locking would cause problems? I believe some of us, especially early on when this problem was first identified, dimpled and then loctited the bearing onto the shaft. I rode all last winter this way and haven't seen any ill effects, unless I'm missing something. Travis has more experience with this whole thing.
Thanks again Travis!!!!