Just got a little curious so I pulled the springs out of the primary and secondary on my sled to see what the belts look like when I duplicate full shift of the clutches. Will the secondary fully open and the primary fully closed the 8jp and the gates belt both get to the same exact spot. I have marks on the primary to check to see how far the belt travels up the face. The 8jp and gates both go exactly to that line and stop, the 8dn goes just a tad past it, a 1/16th of an inch at most, but it does travel just a bit more, now at full shift the 8jp and gates are both pretty snug, the 8dn still has a bit of play in it. Now with mine, atleast with the gates belt, after a few seconds of wot it would reach 88-8900 rpm and hold steady until about 100 mph and then as speed continued to increase the rpm gained as well and eventually was hitting the rev limiter. Now like I stated in the first post, the best speed I got was with the gates at 108 mph in 1000', I did hold it past 1000' several times to try and get more, but it would continue to hit the rev limiter and wouldn't gain, so it's acting as tho it's either fully shifted or the secondary spring is bound up, i had the .080" washers so I tried those out as well to space the helix out in case maybe it was the spring binding up but it didn't change anything, my assumption now is that that's where mine reached full shift, could be wrong, chime in with any other ideas. I have checked the secondary spring to see if the paint is gone on the inside of the spring and it is not so I'm quite sure there's no coil bind issues. On my secondary the helix bottoms out on the clutch body itself which is normal, just curious now if the stock helix will bottom out in the same spot or if it will allow just a slight bit more travel. Will throw the stock helix on in the next day or two and see if that changes anything.