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Crash Damage and Repair info and pics

Discussion in 'SR Viper Talk' started by MrSled, Mar 4, 2015.


  1. MrSled

    MrSled Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator VIP Member

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    All Viper Owners take a look at your front arm cross shaft on your rear skid. Especially if you are riding these sled super aggressively over heavy rutted trail trash. It looks like the shaft is shearing off right at the end of the bolt and the bushing support. It looks as if most of the damage is done to the shaft and the tunnel once it lets go.

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    The bolt and collar should not be the same length so the stress on the shaft is not in the same place... thats my take on it.
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    See the skid looks fine.
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  3. titanrcr

    titanrcr TY 4 Stroke Junkie

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    Wow, That's an ugly failure! It's hard to imagine what caused this, front of the skid bottom out?
     
  4. number1kyster

    number1kyster TY 4 Stroke Master

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    I hope this is a warranty claim Mr. Sled. Absolutely unacceptable on a sled this new!
     
  5. sxr70001

    sxr70001 TY 4 Stroke Guru

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    Good you caught it, that could have caused a bad accident.
     
  6. MrSled

    MrSled Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator VIP Member

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    Thats why I posted it... I dont want anyone to get hurt.
     
  7. yamamarc

    yamamarc TY 4 Stroke God

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    thanks for the heads up!!! I will be checking mine and my wife's today! Hopefully a recall will be in order that failure can really hurt someone!!!
     
  8. TD Max

    TD Max Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    This is more of a freak issue or at the very least something a ditch banger type rider will experience. We saw one bowed a bit at MrSled's a couple weekends back, but that had other factors surrounding it.
     
  9. jedwards89

    jedwards89 Expert

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    Yikes, I would also add that you will want to periodically check your bolts in the skid and particularly around the W arm and rear linkage. One of the bolts on the bottom of the W arm that attaches to the rails either sheered off or fell out. I had not idea until the rest did the same, the W arm hyper extended and then locked out causing all the pressure to the tunnel. Needless to say a new tunnel, W arm and a few other items were needed to get it back together. all under Warranty. Sorry this happened to you Mr. Sled!
     
  10. yamamarc

    yamamarc TY 4 Stroke God

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    I checked both mine and wife's and they are both fine!!! We ride trails
    I checked ours and they are fine! But we aren't crazy ditch banning nuts like some of you!!lol:Rockon:
     
  11. SnoNinja

    SnoNinja aka "Plan B" Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    My shock guy had seen this on their AC snowcross race sled this year. They have broken two shafts themselves. Understandable as they beat on thier sled. If you jump alot and/or pound your sled through the bumps regularly, this is something to keep an eye on.
     
  12. drumz11

    drumz11 Expert

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    Agreed. Bad things can happen when ridden really hard but this hasnt been a common issue on this chassis for the typical owner.
     
  13. mnman309

    mnman309 Expert

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    What was the fix on the AC Snowcross sleds? Heavier/stronger Shaft?
     
  14. drumz11

    drumz11 Expert

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    I would not be surprised if they do but I don't know. A more common problem is bending the lower front skid shock aluminum cross shaft. They have a steel version. It's an easy swap.
     
  15. cannondale27

    cannondale27 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Vendor Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Yes the XC and SX do have a thicker shaft but its stepped to fit bushings. But they break also. Issue is the same length bolt and bushing. Heavier steppedshaft in XC and SX sleds use same bolt and bushing. Working on a solution that works. The lower shock shaft in XC and SX is steel and like said a direct bolt in that works.
    Shaft.jpg
     
  16. TD Max

    TD Max Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Gun drill it? I believe this actually makes it stronger.
     

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