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Exchanger coolant leak fixed - Fuel tank,Battery removal

Discussion in 'SideWinder Trail Talk' started by ROCKERDAN, Dec 23, 2017.


  1. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

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    Anyone with a coolant leak on right side(MAG) under front of track, that drips down the right side driver this thread will show the fix.

    If you have coolant leaking under your sled that is rearward of engine compartment, around the front of track on right side this is what you need to do.

    1. Take it back to dealer for warranty.

    OR

    2. Work on it yourself if your OCD and dont want some kid tearing into your brand new sled. I guess you guys know which I choose.LOL

    Very odd design......there is a connecting rubber hose only about 2 inches long, with 2 hose clamps. This small hose connects the long alum heat exchanger tube, (which runs above the track clips-right side) from the rear exchanger to the front exchanger. Its able to be seen if you get sled up on a lift, and look way up in front of track.

    My sled was built way back in July. So it sat in crate Im guessing most of late summer. It then got delivered to me around October I believe it was, and I had it in my shop at home for more time. Never once did it leak coolant. So recently it got very cold up here(still had never rode the sled yet) and I then found a puddle of coolant under the right side of sled near front of track, traced the drips coming down through track clip, down right side driver, thru lower track clip, down to trailer floor.

    Not many other places it can be leaking except this hose.....The crappy part is, how they designed this. This small hose is right at extreme top of tunnel, and so the top part of the hose actually is above the tunnel surface. There is a cutout in the tunnel, and they silicone all around the hose to seal off tunnel. The screws on the hose clamps are on TOP of the tunnel, facing the left side of sled under the header. So to tighten the two clamps, I had to remove the fuel tank and header shroud.....lots of work just to tighten them.

    Just wanted to post up some pics as its not hard, but just takes time removing everything. Just like all my clamps on my sled, these were barely tight. And so when it got cold, the alum shrinks just enough, that the clamps leaked coolant. Not badly, and would likely seal up when heated up/running sled...But I had to do it, and sure enough they were barely tight and glad I did it now.

    Dan

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  3. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

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    Now down to the header shroud....must remove the V-Clamp from header to pipe. This will allow you to slide upward the header shroud and out of the way, so you can get at the clamps.

    There is heat foil over top of this hose, which is important as the header glows. I used a hair blower to heat up the glue on it and removed it. It loses its stickem abit, so when reinstalling I clamped it in with the bolt for shroud.

    Dan

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  4. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

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    I have to say.....the new iPhone X sure blows away my old one with its incredible camera. And these have been shrunk down 80% from original resolution to fit them onto this site, and they still look great..lol

    Dan
     
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  5. XP123

    XP123 TY 4 Stroke Master

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    Who would have thought those clamps would be under the header! Wow good job Dan. I think I will leave my alone till next year.
     
  6. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

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    I still cannot believe this design eh? I guess maybe they needed the room underneath for deeper lug tracks ect?

    I figured they must have foil over it, since its so darn close to header....

    I will add that with the new lift, working on the sled was a pleasure...no sore back at end of day anymore, nice working on it at perfect height! A

    And, compared to the DOO, removing this tank and pyramid frame members is a breeze....It was way more work when I only had to slide rearward my tank on my 4tec to remove ECU and sell it, what a pain that was. This sled is quite easy to work on for sure. Nice when its brand spanking new too...lol

    Dan
     
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  7. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

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    Here is the pic we originally looked at.....off fiche.

    And some pics from below when I was first trying to see where it was coming from.

    Dan



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  8. XP123

    XP123 TY 4 Stroke Master

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    I'm going to keep an eye on mine Dan but I haven't seen any coolant since last year. I was afraid it would be under the header but I was hoping you would tell me it wasn't and the fix would be easy. Oh well it doesn't look like a difficult job it's just that I don't feel like digging into my sled anymore this year. Maybe next year. Keep up the good work and keep us posted on all the cool stuff you do.
     
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  9. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

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    I hear ya. Its abit time consuming removing all the stuff. Battery and wiring ect, sorta a pain but not bad.

    It just really bugged me, to see how LOOSE the clamps were....Im surprised they werent leaking alot worse. I was able to tighten them many many turns! Not much diff then all my turbo hose clamps, all barely snug at all.

    Dan
     
  10. hman4

    hman4 Extreme

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    Wow, thanks for the post and all the pics. I just installed a header and haven’t put it back together yet. Will definitely check before putting it back together. Like you said not a terrible job but I would have hated seeing this post if I just put it back together.
     
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  11. hman4

    hman4 Extreme

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  12. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

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    Man that is a gorgeous header! Im trying to save some goodies for next year! LOL

    Yeah as you know, lots to remove to get down that deep... but easy to do. I guess next fall I will do it all again when I call Dave and have him send me his header..haha

    Looks great brother!
     
  13. hman4

    hman4 Extreme

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    Thanks for the compliment Dan and all you do here. Sled is starting to come together and your posts are what got me where I am. I’m with you though, nobody is working on my sled but me. I may screw something up but I can live with the flaws I do as compared to some shop.
     
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  14. raptordan

    raptordan Extreme

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    Great write up and pictorial as always Dan, I had this exact same leak last week that I had to fix!
     
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  15. Conedodger

    Conedodger Extreme

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    Dan, thanks, How many hours in this little hose clamp project?
     
  16. snowbeast

    snowbeast TY 4 Stroke God

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    Dan,if you have not reinstalled that C clamp back onto the header flex pipe,do yourself a favor,red locktight that ave nut,as it backed off mine out in the willie wacks,and had to have it spot welded togeather to continue to ride. For some reason my old clamp NUT must have been bad new,but if its already off,just a tad of locker wont hurt.
     
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