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HID kit installed

Discussion in 'Electrical' started by grizztracks, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. grizztracks

    grizztracks Tech Advisor Tech Advisor VIP Member

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    Location:
    Scio, NY
    Country:
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    Snowmobile:
    FX Nytro RTX, RS Vector, SR Viper RTX SE
    I installed a DDM tuning HID kit (35W, H4 High / Low, 4500K) in my FX Nytro. This was a very simple installations with no cutting or splicing wires. Everything plugged in with no problems and the installation took around 1hr. The HID DDM Tuning kit did not come with directions but I really didn't need them. The kit cost $35 (+$20 for the H4 high/low bulbs) and it has a lifetime warranty. I'll be ordering a second kit for my Vector. If anyone decides to install one and needs some assistance let me know, I'd be glad to help.
     
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  3. radianguy

    radianguy TY 4 Stroke God

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    Location:
    Corner Brook Newfoundland, Canada
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    Yamaha FX NYTRO XTX
    Thanks for the info, I plan to order a set or 2 myself.
     
  4. Phazernut

    Phazernut TY 4 Stroke Guru

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    Location:
    Torbay Newfoundland
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    04 Viper ER.
    96 V-Max 4
    I have DDM HID's in my bike and truck. Great stuff and prices can't be beat. Interested to see how it holds up all the same.
     
  5. grizztracks

    grizztracks Tech Advisor Tech Advisor VIP Member

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    Location:
    Scio, NY
    Country:
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    Snowmobile:
    FX Nytro RTX, RS Vector, SR Viper RTX SE
    When I ordered the HID kit I was expecting to do some modifications to make it work in a Nytro. With my background I felt confident I could handle any needed changes but with this kit I was able to put that college degree and all those years of experience away. Everything is prewired and there is absolutely no cutting, splicing or trying to make things fit. PLUG and PLAY? I'd have to say so.
    http://s589.photobucket.com/albums/ss33 ... %20Tuning/

    All you need to do is:
    1) mount the provided relay (If you remove the cowl it can be mounted behind the speedometer head, use the top speedo screw to secure it)
    2) connect the fused lead to the battery (this wire supplies the needed power to the lighting system)
    3) ground two wires to the steering loop (use the lower loop mounting bolts)
    4) mount the two ballasts and plug them into the provided harness (I made aluminum mounts and secured them with a hose clamp)
    5) install the bulbs into the head light assembly and plug them into the ballast (The H4 bi-Xenon bulbs mount in the assemble with no modification)
    6) connect one of the head light plugs that came off the old bulbs into the provided harness. (this will provide the control for High/low beams)
    7) route the wire harness and secure it so it's out of the way with the provided ties. This is the hardest step.
     

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  6. craigjschr

    craigjschr Extreme

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    Location:
    rochester ny
    these are cheep will they work on my apex if so can someone tell me what i need to order to get them in my sled.
     
  7. Phazernut

    Phazernut TY 4 Stroke Guru

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    915
    Location:
    Torbay Newfoundland
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    04 Viper ER.
    96 V-Max 4
    They are pretty much plug and play. I have the 55 watt in my bike and truck. Super bright. I went with the 6000k but from what I read it may be good for the road but a bit too white for the snow. 4500K is supposed to be good for the snow.
     
  8. Bubb Rubb

    Bubb Rubb Newbie

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    Location:
    Northern Minnesota
    Grizztracks - Thanks for the info. Couple of questions for you:

    1) Did you purchase the "HID Harness" option? If so would you recommend it?

    2) What is the "Error Eliminator" option and did you order it?


    Question to everyone else. Why is this kit and similar kits so inexpensive compared to SledStart's kit (~$175 difference)? I would like to support those who support snowmobiling. But with a price difference like that, it is difficult to do.
     
  9. Phazernut

    Phazernut TY 4 Stroke Guru

    Messages:
    915
    Location:
    Torbay Newfoundland
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    04 Viper ER.
    96 V-Max 4
    I think the harness is only reccomended for the 55 watt option. That said, I bought the harness for my truck with 55watt but decided not to use it. So far it has worked fine. Also did not use it on my bike (Buell Lightning). The lights on my bike have worked perfectly all summer. Considering the vibration from the big V-Twin I would say they can take some abuse. Don't know much about the error eliminator but I don't think it is needed for our use.
     

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  10. grizztracks

    grizztracks Tech Advisor Tech Advisor VIP Member

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    Location:
    Scio, NY
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    FX Nytro RTX, RS Vector, SR Viper RTX SE
    The motorcycle dual headlight kit with the H4 high/low beam bulb comes with a relay harness that has all the needed wiring, connectors and fuse. The error eliminator is not needed for snowmobile applications. All you need to do is select the three options that I've listed and they'll send you everything you need. I recommend sticking with the 4500k bulb for snow applications and the 35watt kit is adequate.
     
  11. curt79

    curt79 Extreme

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    Location:
    Alberta
    Just ordered mine today!!! Will post results!!
     
  12. grizztracks

    grizztracks Tech Advisor Tech Advisor VIP Member

    Messages:
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    Location:
    Scio, NY
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    FX Nytro RTX, RS Vector, SR Viper RTX SE
    I edited an earlier post with a few pictures and a wiring block diagram. I took the pictures after the install so I didn't get everything.
     
  13. JCLG

    JCLG Extreme

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    Location:
    Finland
    Thanks for the pics. I'll do the same thing coming weekend to my nytro.

    This will ease work the even more.
     
  14. MrSled

    MrSled Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator VIP Member

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    Location:
    Schofield, WI
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2017 Sidewinder
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  15. sxr__yamaha

    sxr__yamaha Newbie

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    Location:
    North Bay, Ontario
    Thanks for the post. Mine are shipped today.
     
  16. montinj

    montinj Newbie

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    Location:
    Deep River, Ontario
    which HDD unit

    Hi

    Checked out DDM site and they show two types of HID kits.

    One is Apexcone Raptor HID Kit, which is an analog unit and the other is called DDM HID Kit Slim Ballast (35W or 55W) which is a digital ballast.

    Any recommendation on which one to use on an APEX?
     

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