looking at gytr apex shocks, what are they worth?

[kinger]

Just my take on it as I have compared both:

GYTR's adjust with a turn of a knob - floats you must jack up the sled and and hand pump each time

GYTR's never go flat - floats seals can break leading to a trip ruined

I run GYTR's at full soft in a moguled out trail to soak up the bumps - floats run harder as the piston travel is increased

I have never bottomed out a float or a GYTR

GYTR's are infinitly more tunable then a float

I like the GYTR's for my riding other like the floats they are both great shocks.

 

[Super Sled]

GYTR's never go flat - floats seals can break leading to a trip ruined

Let's ask the site: Has anybody on this site ever had a Fox Float II go flat.


I'm not talking about first gen floats from yesteryear or even Float I's. I mean Float II's.



Anyone? I have never heard of Float II's losing an air seal. Never.





Mike

 

[Maxout01]

Just my take on it as I have compared both:

GYTR's adjust with a turn of a knob - floats you must jack up the sled and and hand pump each time

GYTR's never go flat - floats seals can break leading to a trip ruined

I run GYTR's at full soft in a moguled out trail to soak up the bumps - floats run harder as the piston travel is increased

I have never bottomed out a float or a GYTR

GYTR's are infinitly more tunable then a float

I like the GYTR's for my riding other like the floats they are both great shocks.

thanks for the comparo!

 

[sherlock29]

Why not go to the ohlins??? I have both ohlins and float 1's... wish i had evol's... but that's not the case.

So i love the feel of the floats.... i like the fact that i can tune them very quickly to the trail conditions... love the more "cushy" feel on the trails some days.. and the fact they dont bottom out... I've slamed the front end down hard over stuff and they swallow it all up...

But.... the ohlins...... my oh my.... if i was going to war... i would take them... I've pounded the $hit out of them and they really work.... but i wish i could adjust ride height more.... I'm in the 185lb range and i run the springs almost to the top(just before they go loose under no load) and have the dials 3 clicks from full soft.. and the a arms are still not very "level"... where as the rtx i can slam the front from when i'm doing the 660....

what can i say.... 2 completely different shocks for very different conditions(if you want)... just my 2c..

sherlock.

 

[Super Sled]

Why not go to the ohlins??? I have both ohlins and float 1's... wish i had evol's... but that's not the case.

So i love the feel of the floats.... i like the fact that i can tune them very quickly to the trail conditions... love the more "cushy" feel on the trails some days.. and the fact they dont bottom out... I've slamed the front end down hard over stuff and they swallow it all up...

But.... the ohlins...... my oh my.... if i was going to war... i would take them... I've pounded the $hit out of them and they really work.... but i wish i could adjust ride height more.... I'm in the 185lb range and i run the springs almost to the top(just before they go loose under no load) and have the dials 3 clicks from full soft.. and the a arms are still not very "level"... where as the rtx i can slam the front from when i'm doing the 660....

what can i say.... 2 completely different shocks for very different conditions(if you want)... just my 2c..

sherlock.

I agree with everything a lot. Ohlins are the best in many ways. Absolute quality and comfort.



But Float II's just provide a few intangible benefits, such as their ease of adjustability and superior height control (as you pointed out) that even Ohlins can't provide.



I was just thinking about this thread on the ride in this morning. I am excited about getting my Float II's. But if for some reason I am absolutely unhappy, I'll sell them and order some Ohlins from Carver. Ohlins would be my other choice.





Mike

 

[VX1R]

But i wish i could adjust ride height more.... I'm in the 185lb range and i run the springs almost to the top(just before they go loose under no load) and have the dials 3 clicks from full soft.. and the a arms are still not very "level"... where as the rtx i can slam the front from when i'm doing the 660....
sherlock.

I too have both Ohlins and Floats on the front of Apex based sleds and totally hear what sherlock29 is saying about how easy it is to lower the ride height of the front end by just lowering the air pressure on the Floats.

I just wanted to mention that by changing the springs to a softer rate on your Ohlins you can also get your a-arms lowered. Most of the performance shops that service Ohlins (Carver, Pioneer, HyGear, etc) should be able to help you out.

Obviously this is going to cost you some extra cha-ching with the Ohlins, and it's not as easy as just letting some air out of the Floats, but if you really like your Ohlins it can be done. I had the same concern as sherlock29 last year and wanted to lower the ride height. After installing the lower rate springs it really improved the handling by leveling out the A-arms.