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My Two Cents, for what it's worth.

Discussion in 'General Yamaha Discussion' started by WillowAce, Mar 11, 2020.


  1. WillowAce

    WillowAce Expert

    Messages:
    257
    Location:
    Northern Wisconsin
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2016 Viper L-TX-DX - Sold
    2019 Switchback XCR - Sold
    2015 Viper L-TX-LE
    2019 Renegade 850 - In the shed just in case
    2020 Viper L-TX-SE
    We whine too much. Yeah, Yamaha did not develop a cutting edge new narrow chassis with a big screen T.V. stuck in the dash. Do I need a cutting edge new chassis? Well, I can't ride the Yamaha SRV chassis to its limits. Nope, Yamaha didn't introduce a new "Yamaha" engine, but what is wrong with the engine I have? My biggest gripe in the past was buying a new sled and then having to put new skis on it the same day, they fixed that. Second biggest gripe, not having more choices for suspension. Yamaha, that is something you can fix without putting profitability at jeopardy. It's simple, give spring orders a choice for upgrade and pass the cost on to us. Color choices, yeah it would be nice but I understand that might not be so practical. Last gripe, and this is a big one; give us a windshield that is actually a windshield as an option. That thing on the SE models is absolutely worthless and the GT windshield is just ugly. There has to be something in between?

    Last, but not least. Dollar for dollar Yamaha gives us as much, if not more, value than the other manufacturers. No I might not be getting a cutting edge display, but I am not spending money on a tunnel bag either, or a painted tunnel for that matter. Cost of ownership of a Yamaha has, and always will, in my opinion be the factor it comes down to. One of my riding buddies is a well respected BRP tech. He will tell you that an Etec is a 10K mile engine. As we all know Yamaha 4 strokes have no problem hitting and exceeding 20K while retaining value. Look at it this way, if I buy an Etec for $10K each mile I ride is $1 of life/value gone. A Yamaha is $ .50 a mile gone. Doesn't take a PHd in math to figure those numbers out. To boot, that doesn't take into consideration the $50 gallon of oil I will be putting in ever 400 miles, or the $300 fancy tunnel bag I have to buy if I want to carry my owners manual with me.
     
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  3. yamahinn03

    yamahinn03 VIP Member VIP Member

    Messages:
    681
    Location:
    oshkosh, wi
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    09 Nytro RTX (mine)
    06 Apex GT (wifes)
    07 Phazer (#2 sons)
    02 Viper (#1 Sons)
    Dont forget about the Pricey belts too!!
     
  4. rtx moose

    rtx moose VIP Member VIP Member

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    749
    Location:
    WATERTOWN,MN
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2017 sidewinder LTX LE,2007 RTX,2000 SRX700
    i will say having a gps is huge,i would pay extra for that
     
  5. sgauthier

    sgauthier Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Location:
    southwest, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    2011 Apex XTX
    ;)I don't need no stinking GPS on a sled. I know how to read a map and signs. LOL. :jump:
     
  6. rtx moose

    rtx moose VIP Member VIP Member

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    Location:
    WATERTOWN,MN
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2017 sidewinder LTX LE,2007 RTX,2000 SRX700
    The signs at some places even in the up can be confusing..I have had to use my phone to make sure I was going down the correct trail..and the dam maps are a pain in the #*$&@ when it's below zero..plus there is no room to store a map on my sidewinder
     
  7. yamahinn03

    yamahinn03 VIP Member VIP Member

    Messages:
    681
    Location:
    oshkosh, wi
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    09 Nytro RTX (mine)
    06 Apex GT (wifes)
    07 Phazer (#2 sons)
    02 Viper (#1 Sons)
    X2 Gautier!! No Gps, map in pocket an off we go!!
    Been doin it for long time.
     
  8. Carbide

    Carbide Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Location:
    Elk River, Minnesota
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2015 Apex X-TX
    2021 Sidewinder L-TX SE
    I have never used one while snowmobiling or motorcycling. Maps only.
    And I have ridden over 300,000 miles on motorcycles. Maps rock.
     
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  9. maim

    maim Moderator Staff Member Moderator Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Location:
    sudbury on
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    2016 apex xtx/ 2011 apex xtx/ 2009 phaser rtx/x/ 1997 et410t/r
    the only time i have my gps withe me is when i am in a new area. i mark where i started from and ride. got lost a few times before. now i have where i need to get back to saved in the gps.
     
  10. WillowAce

    WillowAce Expert

    Messages:
    257
    Location:
    Northern Wisconsin
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2016 Viper L-TX-DX - Sold
    2019 Switchback XCR - Sold
    2015 Viper L-TX-LE
    2019 Renegade 850 - In the shed just in case
    2020 Viper L-TX-SE
    I have a handheld GPS that works great, it has maps in it, an altimeter, all of my waypoints, I can mount it where I want and even see the screen. Heck, for that matter all anyone really needs is an accessory plug for your phone and you have all the GPS you need for about $20 extra.
     
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  11. Carbide

    Carbide Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

    Messages:
    560
    Location:
    Elk River, Minnesota
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2015 Apex X-TX
    2021 Sidewinder L-TX SE
    I guess a big reason for me not owning one (besides the one on my telephone) is I dont own a computer and don't want to deal with updating maps and stuff like that.
    Heck I've got memory cards filled with videos from my gopro I dont do anything with. :p
     
  12. InRBigness

    InRBigness Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Location:
    winnipeg, manitoba
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    2016 Viper XTX-LE w/ MPI turbo
    gps mount.JPG
    I use my GPS all the time. I dont need one built in. I put this one on my quad in the summer. Its nice to know some of the details it offers and I have had to use it to get back to where I was before when I went the wrong way.
     
  13. WillowAce

    WillowAce Expert

    Messages:
    257
    Location:
    Northern Wisconsin
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2016 Viper L-TX-DX - Sold
    2019 Switchback XCR - Sold
    2015 Viper L-TX-LE
    2019 Renegade 850 - In the shed just in case
    2020 Viper L-TX-SE
    Looks just like mine. Dakota?
     
  14. InRBigness

    InRBigness Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

    Messages:
    598
    Location:
    winnipeg, manitoba
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    2016 Viper XTX-LE w/ MPI turbo
    Montana 680. Ram mount. Rocxtoyz power supply.
     
  15. Mills

    Mills Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

    Messages:
    635
    Location:
    Elk Mound, Wisconsin
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    '14 Viper RTX, '06 Apex, '99 SX 600, '74 TL433F, '79 Trail Fire
    I have at least 30 trail maps in the $30 windshield bag on my Viper. Works great and I can throw my phone in it as it charges while I ride.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2020
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  16. YukonMP

    YukonMP VIP Member VIP Member

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    Location:
    Yukon Territory
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    2014 Venture MultiPurpose 2020 VK Professional ll
    This thread just proves we are not one size fits all. I reckon all any manufacturer should do is provide the minimum that there likely is consensus on and either offer accessories or partner with other companies that make custom Yamaha options in their product line. Give these partners prior access to the relevant details so they can offer custom mounts, plug and play options etc.
     

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