Bill-winnipesaukee
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Hello All - on my latest project. Last ride of the year, one of my relay blocks melted, ruining the wiring plug / harness in addition to the relay. This is probably some short as a derivative of the sled being submerged about a year earlier for a little more than a day!
Thanks to Travis @ Barn of Parts, i have a new to me, used harness from another sled. I am working on replacing it now. So far, i have been able to start from the front, removing back to the fuse block. I put the new one in, up to that point, laying it in place.
Will post some pictures after i finish and report how it works out...
Thanks to Travis @ Barn of Parts, i have a new to me, used harness from another sled. I am working on replacing it now. So far, i have been able to start from the front, removing back to the fuse block. I put the new one in, up to that point, laying it in place.
Will post some pictures after i finish and report how it works out...
Bill-winnipesaukee
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I haven't tried very hard, but the fuse block doesn't want to come off, if anyone knows a tip / trick - let me know.
Bill-winnipesaukee
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Update - this is super simple (the fuse block that is) in that a very small screw driver behind it triggers the clip mechanism, comes right up. Definitely glad i didn't pull on it a lot before taking my time...
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Update - OK, I now have it running, with the new harness. Unfortunately however, the headlights and dashboard aren't working. That's a big win already, and gives me confidence. Now need to figure out why the gauge / headlights aren't working. I checked the ground, and now need to check the fuses
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OK - Tried to swap out all of the relays, with a known good machine, that i confirmed the dashboard & headlights were working (Delay was caused by a bad battery on that sled Yuasa only lasted one season, disappointed...)
- No luck, does anyone have a suggestion what i can / should try next to troubleshoot why i am getting no power to the headlights & dashboard? thx
- No luck, does anyone have a suggestion what i can / should try next to troubleshoot why i am getting no power to the headlights & dashboard? thx
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does the back up alarm work? uses same fuse as cluster on the rx sleds.
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Haven't tried that yet - but swapped out all fuses in the fuse block, and changed out all of the relays (the 3 on right side foot panel) with known good ones from an 05' Rage that is working
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have you checked/cleaned the plug in under the tool kit in the nose of the sled? there is also a spot the harness rubbed under there for the rx sleds.
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Thanks guys for your ideas - still not working, so keep the ideas coming. What i just did was test the dash / lights, by plugging them into the good sled i do have. Interesting thing was that the black plug had to be in (Dash), before the lights went on. So - seems like the Dash / Lights are not the problem but something with the harness / relays. Seems like time to get out the multi-meter, but not really sure where to start.
The one thing i will do next, is try the backup alarm as suggested, keep forgetting to try that and see if it comes on, that would maybe eliminate the relay as the problem...
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OK guys - finished up all my other pre-season projects - now i have to get serious about this...
- Harness isn't worn, and i did the following - Tested the hood / dash on my 05 rage - they both worked... (Side note is that the headlight didn't work until i plugged in both gage & headlight connectors)
- Swapped the CPU from the rage (known good / working) into the Venture, still no luck
- Backup / Reverse doesn't cause audio sound either
Status - no gauge, no headlights, but runs well
- Does anyone know how to test the harness at the relay to see that i am getting the right power when running on the relay plug? Also which one to test, i believe the middle one on right side.
- Also - does anyone know what the relay on the left footwell does? It is the only one i don't have on the rage, although i do believe i rotated the relay out. If it is critical to this, could be worth replacing, but would be cool if someone knew what it was for, thx
- Harness isn't worn, and i did the following - Tested the hood / dash on my 05 rage - they both worked... (Side note is that the headlight didn't work until i plugged in both gage & headlight connectors)
- Swapped the CPU from the rage (known good / working) into the Venture, still no luck
- Backup / Reverse doesn't cause audio sound either
Status - no gauge, no headlights, but runs well
- Does anyone know how to test the harness at the relay to see that i am getting the right power when running on the relay plug? Also which one to test, i believe the middle one on right side.
- Also - does anyone know what the relay on the left footwell does? It is the only one i don't have on the rage, although i do believe i rotated the relay out. If it is critical to this, could be worth replacing, but would be cool if someone knew what it was for, thx
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OK - Here's the update...
- Purchased a wiring diagram, compared all behavior on the load control relay with a multi-meter
- Jumping the relay causes everything to work (but it doesn't turn off / on based on the engine...)
- Bought a new load control relay as the last straw - it didn't work
- Bought a switch from trailer supply and put it on the jump part of the circuit (Remove battery if you do this, i shorted out a starter relay fuse, delaying me by a week...)
- Ran it for a test ride, with the switch at night, ran 6 or so miles and had fun - had to leave it at that as the weekend was over, but got it all back together
- Purchased a wiring diagram, compared all behavior on the load control relay with a multi-meter
- Jumping the relay causes everything to work (but it doesn't turn off / on based on the engine...)
- Bought a new load control relay as the last straw - it didn't work
- Bought a switch from trailer supply and put it on the jump part of the circuit (Remove battery if you do this, i shorted out a starter relay fuse, delaying me by a week...)
- Ran it for a test ride, with the switch at night, ran 6 or so miles and had fun - had to leave it at that as the weekend was over, but got it all back together
