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SE ride quality - Compared to LE Qs3r

Discussion in 'SideWinder Trail Talk' started by ROCKERDAN, Jan 8, 2017.

  1. ROCKERDAN

    ROCKERDAN OCD Sledhead VIP Member

    Messages:
    4,268
    Location:
    Huntsville Ontario & Niagara NY
    Country:
    Other
    Snowmobile:
    '18 RTX 50th "Winder"
    I would love an LE with the Qs3r...ride seems fantastic. Still undecided on what I might do, but after riding Toms turbo this week for 110miles I sure miss big top end arm stretching power. My gps and radar gun have been lonely for awhile now never seeing much over 111 since I went over to doo. LOL

    Anyway.....

    It seems if I do something this season, it will be an SE. Not by choice but it is what it is.....So i would like to hear from those with SE models, and better yet 129 SE, as Im nothing but a short track guy with our tight trail system and really dont want to argue track length.

    So lets hear about your SE and how the ride quality is....I see the specs show RC shocks up front, Im assuming that is a one clicker knob deal(similar to my doo X) with NON ressie style coilover....How well do these front work on sucking up junk?

    Out back, it seems things are more basic....and this is where I worry, as the LE setup is so nice with the QS3 in center and rear. Would like to hear the good,bad and ugly about SE rear ride quality.

    may end up having to wait for 18 to get LE , but I do like the price better on SE..LOL

    thnx
    Dan
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2017
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  3. jonlafon1

    jonlafon1 TY 4 Stroke Guru

    Messages:
    833
    Location:
    Mount Morris, WI
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    Sidewinder LTX-SE
    Dan not much yet but I did start a thread on the 137 LTX-SE. I will be adding to the thread with more seat time soon

    http://ty4stroke.com/threads/137-sidewinder-se-owners-suspension-set-up.146223/

    IMO the 129 would be better if your a turn burn to turn guy.. I kind of wish I would have gone 129" Kind of early to say in concrete but its getting that way for me.. They just (137") seem so nose heavy.. Mine is still a work in progress
     
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  4. jtmetal

    jtmetal TY 4 Stroke Guru

    Messages:
    767
    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    '17 Sidewinder LTX SE
    137" S.E. it's the stuff dreams are made of.

    Northwoods Wis. has very demanding & technical trails. And this s.e. delivered.
     
  5. jonlafon1

    jonlafon1 TY 4 Stroke Guru

    Messages:
    833
    Location:
    Mount Morris, WI
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    Sidewinder LTX-SE
    jt curious where your at with setting on everything?
     
  6. jtmetal

    jtmetal TY 4 Stroke Guru

    Messages:
    767
    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    '17 Sidewinder LTX SE
    All stock setting. It was -10° and challenging enough just to be out there. Hahaha.
    Trail was extremely tight. As you could imagine. Needed to give the front skid spring a turn, To loosen things up. But I didnt have it in me.
    Against what everyone comes in here and says, tuners worked well for me. Some ski dancing and very little darting went on. Trust me, sled got pushed. It got hot in -15° if you know what I mean.
     
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  7. jonlafon1

    jonlafon1 TY 4 Stroke Guru

    Messages:
    833
    Location:
    Mount Morris, WI
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    Sidewinder LTX-SE
    Yea its going to be hard for me to compare . I have SLT's with 7.5 shapers and 192 nails in it. I think I have it close but still working on it..
     
  8. jtmetal

    jtmetal TY 4 Stroke Guru

    Messages:
    767
    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    '17 Sidewinder LTX SE
    I wanted to understand what Yamaha delivered. I'm new to Yamaha. I know, weird! Lol. Stock carbides & no studs.
    I'm still debating studs. Have 144 1.375's???? Also watching to see which pattern. Didn't want to damage louvers.

    I'm sorry, Dan.
     
  9. johnnysnowking

    johnnysnowking Extreme

    Messages:
    69
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Country:
    USA
    My local dealer has a brand new orange and black for 13k


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  10. 1100saber

    1100saber Expert

    Messages:
    222
    Location:
    northern ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    Snowmobile:
    2017 Sidewinder LTX-SE
    WEBSITE:
    AlliedPerformanceShoppe@outlook.com
    FACEBOOK:
    AlliedPerformanceShoppe
    I only have about 250 miles on my se. Can't compare to the qs3 shocks...but night and day better ride than my old procross with floats. I'm sure the qs3 are an upgrade...but I'm happy with what I have. I bought on a whim about 3 weeks ago..so I had to pick what was in stock
     
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  11. allyammies

    allyammies Expert

    Messages:
    472
    Location:
    Darien Wi
    So are the qs3r's better than say a Elka stage four? Looking to upgrade.
     
  12. Pstn head

    Pstn head VIP Member VIP Member

    Messages:
    809
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    The Sidewinder LE is special! through the trails tight, or fast big sweepers. Whatever trail doesn't matter, jumps, chatter, mogals.The one thing I can say about the SE is that it's fantastic! according to two buddy's of mine. They just complain about having not enough adjustment and the centre shock could be improved (real easy with a dual rate spring) dampening does come with the SE I beilieve only in the fronts. "Sucking up junk" the SE is really good when going through a whooped out trail and or chatter, super flat and confidence inspiring like most pro cross chassis, coming off a big jump it's ok depends how big. I'm a 99.9% trail guy and so are my buds, so ya 129" is the best suited for me. Lighter in the front and very quick responding rear skid.
     
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  13. aquaticlaker

    aquaticlaker Veteran

    Messages:
    42
    Location:
    Green Lake WI
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    SIDEWINDER L‑TX LE 50TH
    LOCATION:
    Green Lake Wi
    Do we think that Yamaha will not offer the LE with the Qs3r. Like the x-tx 137 LE with the Qs3r. Is that typical to rotate their offerings?
     
  14. dox06

    dox06 Expert

    Messages:
    318
    Location:
    Jackson, Michigan
    I have the LE XTX 137 with the QS3 shocks, have to say it is as smooth as butter through the giggles. Even threw my wife on it, switched the shocks to the low settings. And she got off after twenty miles and said I have to sell the FX Nytro XTX and look for another SW. So that was good and bad. lol
     
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  15. sk-rx1

    sk-rx1 TY 4 Stroke Junkie

    Messages:
    719
    Location:
    saratoga, ny
    Any thoughts on why the 137s feel nose heavy.
     
  16. Ricky Prewitt

    Ricky Prewitt Newbie

    Messages:
    23
    Location:
    Richmond
    Country:
    USA
    Snowmobile:
    2017 Yamaha sidewinder LTX SE
    From what I hear from multiple people is they come with to much front ski pressure so what they are saying to do is lossen the front shocks up and tighten the front skid shock .. so it add more track pressure less ski pressure
     
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