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Ski Savers

Discussion in 'General Yamaha Discussion' started by Vmax, Apr 30, 2021.


  1. Vmax

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    Do Woody's ski savers help with darting?
     
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  3. whitedust1

    whitedust1 TY 4 Stroke God

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    Navigators?
     
  4. Vmax

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    Sorry, what are navigators
     
  5. Yamajon1

    Yamajon1 VIP Member VIP Member

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    He’s asking if by “ski savers” you were referring to the Woodys product called “Navigators”
     
  6. whitedust1

    whitedust1 TY 4 Stroke God

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    Right ski savers are a wide brush stroke Woodys makes the Navigators as a type of ski saver. Is that the specific Woodys product you asked about?
    Also it would help to know what brand ski you are using and what model snowmobile? Lots of very good ski darting solutions available but need to know what you’re trying to cure on what sled and ski.
     
  7. Vmax

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    I have Cat skis. Woody's have a flat plate that mounts in front of your carbides. They claim it flattens the snow down so your carbides are on smooth snow. Supposed to help with darting as well as protect your skis.
     
  8. jonlafon1

    jonlafon1 Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    If your running a single carbide, I could see using this "flat plate "maybe.. But why not just run Slim jims or the double down snipers? I feel the dual carbides work well with cat skis.. You may want to shim them also..
     
  9. whitedust1

    whitedust1 TY 4 Stroke God

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    That sounds like the navigator. Idk how that would work on cat skis but makes sense to come here to ask. I just put woody navigators on doo TS adjustable carbide skis for a 900t with ice ripper track mostly for ski protection and hopefully eliminate a sight dart. Many part number navigators so make sure you select the one that is compatible with your skis so it mounts and works correctly. No one part fits all.
     
  10. yamadoo

    yamadoo Yamadoo is a snowmobile ' aholic'. Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    When ever carbides and ‘darting’ are mentioned I always used to get frustrated when several people would start praising Snow Trackers for great tracking, turning and NO hunting or darting.........then I began to use them for my single keel sled ski’s and NOW its ME.

    They flat out work...... better than my Good experience with Bergstrom triples and shim with ski savers. Now I have NO experience with the ‘tuner Snow Trackers’ others can comment on that.
     
  11. Vmax

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    I put 4" Woody's dooly's on last season and they did help. I think I will get the skis shimmed and try the ski savers this coming season.
    Thanks folks
     
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  12. jonlafon1

    jonlafon1 Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    DO NOT run aggressive sno trackers on CAT SKIS! You will be sorry and maybe even fill your shorts at times.. The Semi aggressive are decent on cat skis.
     
  13. Vmax

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    Good to know.....thanks
     
  14. Vmax

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    I have read mixed results about snow trackers on the Cat forum. Most like them, they claim it is like have power steering if you use the semi aggressive snow trackers.
    They are expensive so not sure if I will try them if the ski toe out and shims do not work next season.
     
  15. Wannaviper

    Wannaviper Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member

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    I haven't used the "Navigators" or "ski-savers" you referred to, but years ago we had what sounds similar on our Polaris sleds. It was a wider metal "arrowhead" shape with a narrow metal strip that ran back along the ski between the ski and the carbides. They worked very well, and reduced darting significantly. I suspect that they would help with any darting issues you have.

    I will echo Yamadoo though, Snow Trackers work. Until and unless someone invents the perfect ski that prevents pushing and darting, I will have Snow Trackers on all my sleds, regardless of what skis I have on them. The semi aggressive's on Cat skis work extremely well, and the Snow Trackers for Tuner skis are almost as good.
     
  16. Vmax

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    Thanks for the info
     

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