STUDs....How many, what kind, etc.????

[Blue Dave]

I have used the Fast Trac Top Gun II studs and the Fast Trac Air Lite Xl polymer backers on my last several sleds for a total of over 20K miles of abuse. 144 in the woodys V pattern (every other on the outsides) has always worked well for me.

These are the best studs and best backers on the market IMO. I like the round polymer backers because if they spin they still look fine unlike the square ones that I would have to constantly re-straighten (I have OCD).

Fast Trac Polymer backers are advertised to be lighter than aluminum and stronger than steel. I have never once cracked, bent, or lost a single backer despite riding like a maniac over every surface that you can imagine.

 

[GIMME SNOW]

I have used the Fast Trac Top Gun II studs and the Fast Trac Air Lite Xl polymer backers on my last several sleds for a total of over 20K miles of abuse. 144 in the woodys V pattern (every other on the outsides) has always worked well for me.

These are the best studs and best backers on the market IMO. I like the round polymer backers because if they spin they still look fine unlike the square ones that I would have to constantly re-straighten (I have OCD).

Fast Trac Polymer backers are advertised to be lighter than aluminum and stronger than steel. I have never once cracked, bent, or lost a single backer despite riding like a maniac over every surface that you can imagine.

I have always used Woody's, but this year with the new sled I switched to the Fast-Trac Top Gun II. I have heard really good things about these studs, and I gotta tell ya, I really like them, the backers are also really nice. Here is what I did single/double pattern up the middle. With the long track I used Woody's 162 pattern.

 

[**sj**]

I for years used exclusively fast-tracs.....but they got pricey and the rumor was they were recently being made in china...but yes I like a radiused shoulder stud better.

 

[Daranello]

are these the same studs you guys are talking about at the bottom of the page????

http://www.royaldistributing.com/Shoppi ... 9/277.html

 

[**sj**]

thats looking like them...I say looking because theres some confusion ...fast trac , extremes , red tips all use either a very similar or the same "blank" supposedly...and the main difference is the brazing material and carbide insert...

 

[BADSLED]

They look like they are the same to me... Great price!

 

[GIMME SNOW]

are these the same studs you guys are talking about at the bottom of the page????

http://www.royaldistributing.com/Shoppi ... 9/277.html

No those are not the same, I don't think I've heard of those.

http://www.fasttractraction.com/index.htm

You can call them and order in bulk too if you like, saves some money. With me putting in 162 studs I was looking at alot of left over studs, and backers, and more money.

 

[**sj**]

actually on reading the description again I see the silver brazed description which is a fast trac detail...

btw
the nylon washer pictured is NOT recommended for the longer studs we'd use...

 

[Daranello]

whats stronger polymer or nylon backers?

 

[Daranello]

actually on reading the description again I see the silver brazed description which is a fast trac detail...

btw
the nylon washer pictured is NOT recommended for the longer studs we'd use...

On the following page I asome your talking about these http://www.royaldistributing.com/Shoppi ... 9/277.html 0.39c fast trac washers right????

and do you still need to use taller nuts???

 

[GIMME SNOW]

whats stronger polymer or nylon backers?

I know the Fast-Trac polymer have a lifetime warranty. This is the first time for me using the polymer backers so I can't say to much about them yet, or compare thenm to the nylon, but I would think polymer would be stronger than the nylon.

 

[Blue Dave]

"Sho Gun II" is not the same as Fast-Trac Top Gun II. You can buy them direct on the Fast-Trac website http://www.fasttractraction.com/index.htm
or for a little cheaper on the Dennis Kirk website http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/cmn/p ... 9&prev.y=6

In either case get the Top Gun II and the Air Lite XL polymer backers which have a raised center area for additional support of longer studs. I also buy the stainless steel nylock nuts and use them instead of the steel nylock nuts that come with the studs.

 

[Daranello]

why buy the Stainless steels nylock nuts over the Steel nylock nuts????

 

[Blue Dave]

The stainless nuts won't rust like the steel ones do.

 

[Daranello]

Thanks guys I ordered 114 Fast Trac top Gun II 1.375" and Black Air Lite XL Polymer Backers