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TD max pump 17psi

I have the tune bundle, but find myself mostly running MS17 for fuel quality, etc. The only item you seem to have an issue with is adding the 3Bar. I think it's roughly $125.00, and I bet if you ask TD they'll probably say it's advantageous even with max pump 17. I don't put anywhere close to the miles on that you do, but I have had no issues runningMS17 with the hardware you're proposing + the 3 Bar.
You also don't need to send your ECU to Canada, Josh Bormann is a TD dealer Iowa.
 

DooZ said:
I have the tune bundle, but find myself mostly running MS17 for fuel quality, etc. The only item you seem to have an issue with is adding the 3Bar. I think it's roughly $125.00, and I bet if you ask TD they'll probably say it's advantageous even with max pump 17. I don't put anywhere close to the miles on that you do, but I have had no issues runningMS17 with the hardware you're proposing + the 3 Bar.
You also don't need to send your ECU to Canada, Josh Bormann is a TD dealer Iowa.
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Okay thanks! I guess I need a education on tunes and this 3 bar stuff. I usually hang out in one bar! Lol. So what does the 3 bar do? Thanks Jeff.
 
It allows them to accurately tune at higher boost levels that exceed the stock map sensor in short. Having the td bundle myself, I dont find a huge difference between powertrail and max17. Feels like powertrail but a bit stronger with a little more boost. The maxspool series are better imo because response is much better in the midrange, say your cruising at 1/4 throttle and move the flipper quickly to 5/8-3/4 throttle there is significant difference in pull vs standard spool tunes. They require less throttle input to get up and go. I normaly run max spool 17. That said Ill likely be trying another company going forward.
 
jonlafon1 said:
Leaning 3 bar. And around 275. I want to get 10-12 k out if this one also. I think I’ll stay around what I was at. 270.
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Then I would maybe look at the Hurricane, 225-240-270SS SM tune bundle. You will then need a 3bar map sensor and blow off valve and clutch weights and your done.
 
jonlafon1 said:
Anyone run this tune? And if I understand this correctly this tune can be run as a single stand alone tune? Does not need the 3 bar? Anyone have a comparison to powertrail? Seems they are pretty close in power.. Trying to keep cost down on tunes and thinking I may try this as a single stand alone tune.. Bigger fuel pump, ts BOV and a AFR gauge for sure along with it. Anyone have thoughts on this.. I know most say go bundle tunes and data logging.. Just not sure I want to go that far.. Also portraiture single tune with 2.5 was great.. Just looking for opinions for next sled.. Thanks
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MS 17 with over 6,000 miles on it. Runs great. Violent to some but for me that's all controlled by the right hand. Excellent coming out of a corner compared to PT.
 
The 3 bar map sensor is literally a plug in thing. And held Km with single torx screw right next to relays. Is there a reason that’s the part your stopping at?
 
fxnytrortxkid said:
The 3 bar map sensor is literally a plug in thing. And held Km with single torx screw right next to relays. Is there a reason that’s the part your stopping at?
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Nope. I have not kept up on tune knowledge. I tuned in 17 when we were sending out ECU into TD. I understand it now. I thought is was only for running the multi tunes. Jukebox. I’m not interested in that. I want a single tune closed loop and the ability to see AFR numbers if possible. I have BOV and CAI. I was just looking to understand the whole closed loop, data logging, 3 bar, etc. things have changed a lot since the first year on the winders. I sold my 17 and ordered a 22. Trying to gain some knowledge and decide how far to go on boost. No such thing as 3 bar or any of this stuff in 2017.
 
i rode a stock 2020 xtx this season. i have issues with oil getting in the air box and then dripping on my clutches. Well that all snowballed and im going CAI and a 250 tune. I always use premuim fuel, but when you get up north in the bush, gas stations that are supposed to be open sometimes arent, and i really dont want to have to do something rash if i can get 91 octane. i also like the set and forget, i had a 700 raptor that snowballed to 75hp very quickly lol and want to learn from those un thoughtout decisions haha. i am following your thread with interest here and have been wondering if the 3 or 4 bar will make the eco 250 tune more efficient.
 
jonlafon1 said:
Nope. I have not kept up on tune knowledge. I tuned in 17 when we were sending out ECU into TD. I understand it now. I thought is was only for running the multi tunes. Jukebox. I’m not interested in that. I want a single tune closed loop and the ability to see AFR numbers if possible. I have BOV and CAI. I was just looking to understand the whole closed loop, data logging, 3 bar, etc. things have changed a lot since the first year on the winders. I sold my 17 and ordered a 22. Trying to gain some knowledge and decide how far to go on boost. No such thing as 3 bar or any of this stuff in 2017.
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The three bar has been out for a few years.
 
Question. Can I run a header with my max 17 set up or do I need a different tune? I have 3 bar and bov, intake and SQ exhaust.
 
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