Thoughts/Advice on owning a Procross

[Suckur]

So I've owned a procross for a year now and I would like to give my impressions of the quality of that chassis and some advise on what to expect:
I would recommend everyone check all their fasteners throughout the sled. 1/2 mine were not tightened form the factory. Check everything! A loose hose clamp on mine caused the coolant to piss out and destroy the engine. Mine only came with 3 of the 4 spark plug wires attached so I broke the original motor in on 3 plugs and a high tension wire was flopping around down in the engine compartment. The steering column was not tightened up as well. Expect to lose heated grips and especially the thumb warmers. They fail all the time. The solution is to retrofit a Firecat thumbwarmer. It bolts on but the connector is different. Your steering will be very sloppy very quickly. Buy an aftermarket bushing for the column. The headlights will not be aimed correctly either. They point straight down or straight up depending on low/high. There were a shitload of little things that were wrong with mine. All of them due to poor quality control and/or lack of PDI. My dealer said Cat pays nothing for PDI so they only mount the skis and bars and send them out the door. I would ask your dealer to thoroughly check everything before you take it home. These are fantastic handling sleds and are super fun but Arctic Cat quality control and abundance of Chinese parts are terrible. I hope this helps a little and will alert you to some potential problems. You will love the chassis. I hope Arctic Cat is assembling them to Yamaha's standards.

 

[DeerHuntr]

Sounds like you have a piss poor dealer Imo

 

[Silkysmooth3popper]

Will there be any Yamaha employees on the floor when these things get assembled? Or is AC in charge of everything and signing off on on them before the crate gets loaded up?

 

[Suckur]

My dealer is excellent and they went above and beyond to repair the sled. Even coming out to the trail and picking it up.

 

[BTbt]

Before Yamaha I alwqys owned Cats, not much has changed they have always had those issues. Spend a bit of time checking fasteners and securing hoses and wiring was a good idea on the cats.

 

[Yamacat21]

I think what deerhuntr is saying is that most dealers look for stuff like that before delivery. My dealer specifically told me they spend over 4 hours on each new sled making sure stuff like that doesn't happen on the trail.

 

[DeerHuntr]

Exactly what I meant Yamacat. A good dealer should be doing that during setup IMO

 

[Blu2U2]

WOW Suckur it sounds like you either got a lemon or your dealer failed to check the sled over. Having put just less than 1,300 miles on my 2013 AC SP Limited 1100 turbo last season I was very happy with how the sled was. The only issues I had was the turbo wasn't hooked up so for the 1st 500 miles it was a 1100 NA and would only go about 85 MPH. The second issue is was what caused me to trade it in for the Viper. The sled loved to eat belts!!! I went through 4 in the 750 miles I rode it with the Turbo hooked up. AC has issues with their clutches being too hot which IMHO causes the belts to blow-up.
The sled flat out was 10 times better ride than my 08 and 09 FX Nytro's. The suspension and front-end are the two factors that cause me to say this. When I test drove the Vipers in March I knew that I was going back to Yamaha since the Viper has the best of both worlds. Great motor and clutching along with the ride of the AC. When I was able to launch the Viper this was what sealed the deal. It is well balanced and glided through the air vs. my 1100 turbo that felt like I had an extra 50+ pounds up front.
December can not come soon enough!

 

[snowbeast]

Hey suckur,was your sled an 800 procross,and what year was it,mine is a 13 turbo,and i can relate to a few hoses being lose,and i had mine in the dealers field breaking it in on 4 or 5 inches of melting snow last late nov. and i am glad i did,as i felt some slippery stuff under my right foot,and it was oil,wow now i am on alert,wtf was it,after a little few more trips around the field i could smell oil being hot,so off comes the r. hand side panel,and to my surprise,the crank vent hose line on top of the oil bag had come off the pipe,the rubber hose that connected the two pieces of pipe was to short and only had two spring clips,not hose clamps you can tighten,so dealer was happy i found this right in there yard too. So after that and some searching on HCS i started to tighten every clamp i could get to,and alot was lose,but other than that,the sled has been solid right up to blowing the chain from piss poor adjuster (auto adjuster bad idea) new roller one from OSP now,but that was at 2500 hard miles boosted,so i guess that soft j-shaft and poor auto adjuster just could not handle any more lol,but cat got me all fixed right up,and been good to go sense,and it is a very good riding and handling sled,after you get it sert up to your liking,i swapped out stock skis for a set of pilot 5.7 w/7.5 shaper in middle and doo 4" outside sucked down on the limiters all the way,and wow what a handler it now is,and ride is still good as it is a LXR with revalved shocks.

 

[cannondale27]

All these issues did happen to some and I believe Cat and Yamaha have a handle on the issues. A good dealer will look for obvious issues but look at any new sled. Its tough to see much. When problems occur they will take note and correct any issue on the next sleds setups. I bet our Vipers are going to get one of the best checkovers in history. Alot riding on this Venture. Then we will inspect them and take pics and post our findings here. Guaranteed.

 

[2lapsdown]

Check everything you can when you get the sled home. Clamps, rubs, wiring that needs zipties. A good dealer should do most of this, but I don't trust the 10 dollar an hour kid at the big box store anyway! Fixing piddley little crap like this is way easier than trying to compensate for a poor design. Hopefully on the third year of this chassis, QC should be getting better! But I wouldn't hold my breath!

 

[Suckur]

Mine is the 2013 800 High Country Limited. Awesome sled. I have talked to owners who have all had various QC issues and I know that warranty will (and has) taken care of the issues but it sucks breaking down in the dark miles from home on a brand new sled that cost $15,000. Just look them over carefully. Until we know who is overseeing assembly, I would err on the side of caution. With that said, the procross chassis is phenomenal and we know the Nytro engine is tops. It's gonna be a damn good sled as long as the guys at TRF are doing their job.

 

[2lapsdown]

Mine is the 2013 800 High Country Limited. Awesome sled. I have talked to owners who have all had various QC issues and I know that warranty will (and has) taken care of the issues but it sucks breaking down in the dark miles from home on a brand new sled that cost $15,000. Just look them over carefully. Until we know who is overseeing assembly, I would err on the side of caution. With that said, the procross chassis is phenomenal and we know the Nytro engine is tops. It's gonna be a damn good sled as long as the guys at TRF are doing their job.

Very solid advice.

 

[stingray719]

No complaints on the fit and finish on my 2014 M8 Cat. I suspect Yamahas hand in this though as 26 improvements were made to the 2014 Cat from 2013. I would save the gloom and doom until you see the 2014 Cat and Yamacat run.

 

[Muffin]

I'm curious, what did you guys think of the stock Cat skis? In the past I've always put C&A razors on my Nytro's. Just wondering if I need to pick up a set before my sled arrives.