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Just bought an 850 but Dad has a charged apex so not much of a comparison. but from the shoot out results the 850 is quick in 1000 ft. Only 8 mph and 0.4 second slower than a winder. After 1000 I expect the lake racer machines to take over.

Don’t forget the viper will depreciate like a rock thrown off a sky scrapper. Unless the rebates are real good on a left over. Top speed on a viper avg about 80-85 on a trail. You can hold it for days it will only climb a little. I just unloaded my 14 viper for 6800 and I was lucky to find a...

I agree on my 14 viper being sub par. But I am not insane enough to gamble $15,000+ on it being that much better. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Yamaha had their chance with me. 09 nytro XTX and 14 viper. Sent from my...

Don't get the nytro, the most needy yamaha . As in it needs so much work to get it half as good as a stock Apex. Coming from a nytro and viper owner. Not to mention motor is all out of juice at 70-85mph in normal conditions. I rode a 07 apex this year for 20 miles and to me that sled is a...

I am going 850 mxz or renegade for a change. No more 4 stroke for me . 2017 MXz 850 going for $10,500 OTD just add 6% sales tax. So that is the 3k in savings you can get over std sidewinder. But if I was going sidewinder I would have to get QS3 so that jumps the sw price quite a bit . Also I...

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This whole tread is the whole truth about the nature of the sport of snowmobiling. We buy into all the hype and marketing to try the latest machine. Just did 400 miles in three days traded back and forth on 4 sleds. My Viper a skidoo XP, 800 RR cat and a mpi apex. To be honest the Apex and the...

998cc 3 cylinder yzx 110 hp motor in a sled to replace phazer. A snow bike yamacat joint sled. My buddy said cats unveil is same day as yamahas so definitely more shared technology. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank guys for the help. I see there is an updated part for the sub frame and air box. I ordered them we will see what changes were made. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hi guys , Unfortunately I had a close call last week on the first day of my trip with my Viper. I am fine thank God. But my viper took a hit to the left control arm. Control Arm looks straight. Rode the sled after adjusting tie rod for my new handling mod. LOL. I am thinking the sub frame is...

RTX are you studded? I just picked up a 14 rtx viper. I was considering putting on pilot skis. What carbide setup were you running on your pilots? I will be studding my sled for sure and would like to start with a decent ski/carbide setup. I have been on some cat forums reading a lot of guys...

I have just rolled 3200 miles on my nytro xtx. I have the springs turned up I think to much on the front. The limiter strap all the way out. The sled seems to high side or tip up a lot on the inside ski at any turn past 1/4 turn of the handle bars. I am running stock skis with 8" bergstorms...

Rooster I have verified they are working properly I also have the thumb booster yamaheater which is always way hotter than the hand grips. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

My hand warmer with yamaheaters with boost still don't get warm enough on really cold rides and I run them on boost mode all the time. Is the reflash work with the yamaheaters? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Just got my shocks sent into hygear for revalve and twisted triple rates. I might have them do a hi.lo comp added to the rear shock. Dad offered to get me into some simmons Gen 1 skis because he loves his on his viper. I am not sure if I will continue to run the JRE kit. Anyone else running...

had same problem last season with my 2009 with 700 miles on it. Front end squeaked all the time at low speed. I changed out my control arm bushings as mentioned above and no more noise.

In response to previous posts. I did my research on the nytro. Main reason I grabbed it was price mileage and year when I purchased it used. Common a clean nytro is 3k less than the same year low mileage apex for the most part. I had never even ridden a 4stroke till I bought this thing...

No just the pro-cross stuff I have been reading over on Procross section of HCS even the die hard owners have been upset. Viper has my attention as far as looks go tho.

Well I have got 1400 miles in on my nytro so far. Did two 400mi trips to the UP and I am starting to look at other sleds. Primarily 1200 ski doo's. I got the Nytro for a few reasons and now even with my mods I am questioning how many more dollars it will take to make this thing a real...

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