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Don't forget, just like KNAPP says, the XS can be adjusted for with a little clutch tuning, but MOST guys just don't have the time or resources especially with lack of snow for test runs. I ENCOURAGE my buds to use the 8DN cuz; 1. I'm the one that ends up on my knees digging belt shrapnel...

Dr. KNAPP said it best, but here's some real world results on the 4 stockfish Sidewinders I'm dealing with right now. My bud bought my first Winder that is mildly tuned & clutched. It took me years, but I got the 8JP belts to last 2000 miles with the best top performance of ALL the belts for MY...

I just heard this morning!!!! Tearing up now! I met him at Hayday's & have talked to him regularly since them I know he came to the Dark Side with Doo, but he was Blue right to the core He offered his house to me many times if I ever came out that way I'm at a loss for words right now

My local dealer was up in the factory last fall for training on the 858. He said there was 3 engines in the dyne room that was NOT being talked about, but he's no dummy. He saw a Turbo 2-Stroke A 2 cylinder 4-stroke And a Turbo 4-stroke which he thought was a 3 cylinder. They were just walking...

Well said as usual. Still can't believe FLEECE rides with NO studs at all at the speeds he runs!!!

I'm here every day!!! I'm OCD Plus I still help fix 3 Sidewinders so I have to keep up

Anything??????

They go BOOOOM!!!! Then you soil 'yer britches & pray the whole belly pan isn't destroyed. ALL Winder boys have been through this

Guys like KNAAP are the experts here so I'm just an innocent bystander. But let's slow down a notch. This looks like a stock '17 BTX that he re-geared & added a Purple spring that he runs at 9200 rpm's MOST of the time cuz that's what powder guys do. He set offset to 59. Put on AC rollers...

I have a bunch of clutch parts from my Sidewinders I can send you including Helix's, Thunder Springs, Dalton weights, stock springs, rollers. Let me go look & I'll PM you. I don't need them. Dirt cheap!!! Heck I have whole clutches somewhere in my attic.

WTF? Plastic? If it works..............it's should shave some weight also............LOL

We've been saying it since 2017 that there are "issues" that NEED to be addressed to make this sled "trouble free" By now there's enough smart people with the fixes that aren't that bad if done SOOOO many people in DENIAL come on this site & say we are only the complainers or we "ride too hard"...

I can't watch it TOO many memories of my past I'll have to watch it with a friend or I'll cry That's Right!!! I can cry

Don, What the HELL is that........besides AWSOME Mono-shock suspension? The chassis looks like a Procross The seat is some sort of ApexWinder Frankenstein combo thingy

Do NOT forget the TSUNAMI in 2011 That changed everything for Japan including Yamaha They had to pull together to rebuild A few thousand whiny Americans was LOW on the list of chit to be taken care of I think initially they thought it was temporary Then they realized they could sell motors which...

Maybe this will force Polaris to put some performance in their 4-strokes to fill the void. Maybe even a YAMAHA!!!!!

Yamaha will have RECORD sales in 2025

I remember when my bud "acquired" his Grand Ma's 1971ish 433 Yamaha in early 80's. He sank it in the local pond in 10 feet of water. Took us whole day to get to it in 3 feet of snow then another day to get it out. We drained it & rebuilt it. One of them prettiest sleds I've ever seen. THAT was...

It's a small factor. MOST know NOTHING about it The Polaris just flat out handles AGAIN.....I don't want one, but I acknowledge who's who & what's what

I need to disagree with the comment "Polaris Failures". They have put a HUGE dent into Doo sales. I think I saw more newer Polaris' this year overall than all others combined so they are doing something right. I still say "out of the box", meaning take it out the door adjust for your weight &...