n2oiroc
Expert
i read on here that oil for the rx1's was not to exceed a specific spec for the starter clutch. yamaha never actually said that in the manual, so where did that come from? well in my manual for my attak it recommends a 0w30 that meets se, sf, sg or higher. so i can run amsoil series 2000 0w30 (sl-cf) without any issues?
That was garbage, Many use synthetic on RX1's... Mobile 1, Amsoil, ect.
The same warning applies to the Genesis 120.
It does not say you can't use syntetic, it says to avoid using oil with anti-friction additives or the one labeled "Energy Conserving II".
You'd know what it means if you were a biker as motorcycle have a wet clutch and you spoil the thing when you do.
It does not say you can't use syntetic, it says to avoid using oil with anti-friction additives or the one labeled "Energy Conserving II".
You'd know what it means if you were a biker as motorcycle have a wet clutch and you spoil the thing when you do.
n2oiroc
Expert
aVenture said:The same warning applies to the Genesis 120.
It does not say you can't use syntetic, it says to avoid using oil with anti-friction additives or the one labeled "Energy Conserving II".
You'd know what it means if you were a biker as motorcycle have a wet clutch and you spoil the thing when you do.
im not arguing that fact, but where is that written down by yamaha? i didnt see it in my manual.
It sure is... page 6-7 for me...... users manual.
... page 2-20 for service manual.
... page 2-20 for service manual.
The description below is from Amsoil..... i believe it is what you refer as to be family 2000. This is full synthetic and it specifically say it has no added anti-friction to mess with wet-clutches or, for your case, starter clutch... read the last part.. I would use this stuff anytime in my engine.
Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 0W-40
Specially formulated to lubricate and protect 4-stroke recreational motors. Product Code: AFF
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil is specially formulated for four-stroke recreational motors, including ATVs, outboard motors and motorcycles. It may also be used in cars and trucks. Its broad viscosity range makes it excellent for use in both hot and cold temperature extremes.
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil may be used in all applications specifying 0W-40, 5W-30, 10W-30 and 10W-40 viscosity grades and is recommended for applications requiring the following specifications:
API SJ, SH, SG, SF, CD, CF
JASO MA
Use in Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Mercury, Kawasaki, Arctic Cat, Polaris, Nissan and Bombardier motors and transmissions. Safe in wet or dry sumps. Recommended for manual or automatic clutches.
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil is specially formulated for four-stroke recreational motors, including ATVs, outboard motors and motorcycles. It may also be used in cars and trucks. Its broad viscosity range makes it excellent for use in both hot and cold temperature extremes.
Resists High Temperature Vaporization
Conventional motor oils tend to vaporize and lose weight in high temperature conditions, contributing to poor oil circulation, reduction in fuel efficiency and excessive emissions and engine wear. AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil is highly resistant to evaporation. While conventional petroleum oils thicken due to evaporation, AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil maintains its viscosity in high temperature service. The superior evaporation resistance of AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil keeps engine wear, oil consumption and emissions to a minimum, while keeping oil circulation efficient and fuel economy high.
Friction Modifier Free
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil contains no friction modifiers, making it ideal for ATV, outboard motor and motorcycle engines. The friction modifier free formulation of AMSOIL 4-Stroke ensures transmission (manual or automatic) and clutch compatibility and prevents slip.
Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 0W-40
Specially formulated to lubricate and protect 4-stroke recreational motors. Product Code: AFF
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil is specially formulated for four-stroke recreational motors, including ATVs, outboard motors and motorcycles. It may also be used in cars and trucks. Its broad viscosity range makes it excellent for use in both hot and cold temperature extremes.
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil may be used in all applications specifying 0W-40, 5W-30, 10W-30 and 10W-40 viscosity grades and is recommended for applications requiring the following specifications:
API SJ, SH, SG, SF, CD, CF
JASO MA
Use in Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Mercury, Kawasaki, Arctic Cat, Polaris, Nissan and Bombardier motors and transmissions. Safe in wet or dry sumps. Recommended for manual or automatic clutches.
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil is specially formulated for four-stroke recreational motors, including ATVs, outboard motors and motorcycles. It may also be used in cars and trucks. Its broad viscosity range makes it excellent for use in both hot and cold temperature extremes.
Resists High Temperature Vaporization
Conventional motor oils tend to vaporize and lose weight in high temperature conditions, contributing to poor oil circulation, reduction in fuel efficiency and excessive emissions and engine wear. AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil is highly resistant to evaporation. While conventional petroleum oils thicken due to evaporation, AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil maintains its viscosity in high temperature service. The superior evaporation resistance of AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil keeps engine wear, oil consumption and emissions to a minimum, while keeping oil circulation efficient and fuel economy high.
Friction Modifier Free
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke Synthetic Motor Oil contains no friction modifiers, making it ideal for ATV, outboard motor and motorcycle engines. The friction modifier free formulation of AMSOIL 4-Stroke ensures transmission (manual or automatic) and clutch compatibility and prevents slip.