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I keep hearing how the FX doesn't ride very well on groomed trails. Has anybody spent time on both sleds? Looking at both sleds. How is the RS on the trail? Love the fuelie motor but want a good handling sled.
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I traded my '06 Nytro RTX for a brand new '08 FX Nytro RTX in Feburary '08. I kept the '08 until two weeks ago. I loved the engine, but hated the ride.
About the only problem I noticed with the '06 was no matter how stiff you set the rear, it would still bottom out pretty easy on big hits. You can set it hard as a rock so it rides like $hit and it will still bottom out on big bumps. So, I set it up for comfort & knew it was gonna bottom out on occasion, simple as that.
The '09-'10 FX Nytros certainly are suited better for trail use (compared to the '08s), but still not the greatest. Don't let the engine power be your only factor in buying. I made this mistake.
If I were to do it over again..... I woulda never gotten rid of my '06 for the '08. Once I had the suspension set on the '06 to my liking, it rode great.
The extra power of the FX Nytro DID NOT make up for the crappier ride it had.
P.S. I had my FX Nytro setup to handle really good, but it just plain rode like a lumber wagon.
About the only problem I noticed with the '06 was no matter how stiff you set the rear, it would still bottom out pretty easy on big hits. You can set it hard as a rock so it rides like $hit and it will still bottom out on big bumps. So, I set it up for comfort & knew it was gonna bottom out on occasion, simple as that.
The '09-'10 FX Nytros certainly are suited better for trail use (compared to the '08s), but still not the greatest. Don't let the engine power be your only factor in buying. I made this mistake.
If I were to do it over again..... I woulda never gotten rid of my '06 for the '08. Once I had the suspension set on the '06 to my liking, it rode great.
The extra power of the FX Nytro DID NOT make up for the crappier ride it had.
P.S. I had my FX Nytro setup to handle really good, but it just plain rode like a lumber wagon.
Turk
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Been covered to death over & over..if you want a groomed trail sled don,t but the shortie nytro. Vector/Apex is the sled to buy if thats what your gonna do. Too many people bought the nytro as a groomedtrail sled & thats not at all what it was meant for.
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Keep in mind that I am comparing the older Vector chassis with the FX Nytro chassis, not with the newer Deltabox II chassis on the latest Vectors.
I had an 05 Vector, which I modded some to be somewhat close to the RS Nytro, they each had very similar rear suspensions. I found it to be a lot more tippy in the turns than my FX Nytro. I added a tall Mountain Mod seat, but the suspension would bottom, but mostly it would constantly buck and bounce in the rougher stuff. On smoother trails, it would still bounce. Later, I installed an AD Boivin ZX2 suspension, which really improved the ride, soft when you needed it, but enough to handle the bumps without throwing you off.
No matter what I did with that Vector though, it still rode like a pig in the twisty trails, rough or smooth...I really had to work it to turn and at the end of the day, I was just pooped...hence why I started to look at and purchase the FX Nytro.
The FX Nytro, cushy, it's not. It is designed to handle the rough stuff, so obviously it won't be the greatest for the groomed trails, but there are things that you can do it though to make it more comfy on groomed trails.
There are a lot of suspension adjustments on the FX Nytro that you can play with to soften it up for longer smoother rides, ie. soften torsion springs, reduce compression and rebound on all the shocks on the sled, even hi and lo speed compression. So many adjustments and you're bound to find a decent setup.
You can reduce that harsh engagement on the FX Nytro by changing out the primary spring for one that has a lesser initial spring pressure, or better yet, buy a clutch kit designed for touring. Call Ulmer racing, I'm sure they can find a good kit that will satisfy your needs.
Adding a set of Studboy Deuce bars to the stock skis will help reduce the darty feel of the FX, or perhaps a set of dual runner skis like the Kimpex Arrows. Don't go too aggressive with the skis as this sled has a quite heavily balanced front end and you'll experience heavy steering.
Adjusting the handlebars down so that they are not in such an aggressive position, maybe even a set of risers on the bars to bring the handlebars a bit further back too.
Doing all this and it will still out handle the RS Nytro, plus it's ready to go when you really want to push it.
I had an 05 Vector, which I modded some to be somewhat close to the RS Nytro, they each had very similar rear suspensions. I found it to be a lot more tippy in the turns than my FX Nytro. I added a tall Mountain Mod seat, but the suspension would bottom, but mostly it would constantly buck and bounce in the rougher stuff. On smoother trails, it would still bounce. Later, I installed an AD Boivin ZX2 suspension, which really improved the ride, soft when you needed it, but enough to handle the bumps without throwing you off.
No matter what I did with that Vector though, it still rode like a pig in the twisty trails, rough or smooth...I really had to work it to turn and at the end of the day, I was just pooped...hence why I started to look at and purchase the FX Nytro.
The FX Nytro, cushy, it's not. It is designed to handle the rough stuff, so obviously it won't be the greatest for the groomed trails, but there are things that you can do it though to make it more comfy on groomed trails.
There are a lot of suspension adjustments on the FX Nytro that you can play with to soften it up for longer smoother rides, ie. soften torsion springs, reduce compression and rebound on all the shocks on the sled, even hi and lo speed compression. So many adjustments and you're bound to find a decent setup.
You can reduce that harsh engagement on the FX Nytro by changing out the primary spring for one that has a lesser initial spring pressure, or better yet, buy a clutch kit designed for touring. Call Ulmer racing, I'm sure they can find a good kit that will satisfy your needs.
Adding a set of Studboy Deuce bars to the stock skis will help reduce the darty feel of the FX, or perhaps a set of dual runner skis like the Kimpex Arrows. Don't go too aggressive with the skis as this sled has a quite heavily balanced front end and you'll experience heavy steering.
Adjusting the handlebars down so that they are not in such an aggressive position, maybe even a set of risers on the bars to bring the handlebars a bit further back too.
Doing all this and it will still out handle the RS Nytro, plus it's ready to go when you really want to push it.
yamahahaha
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i dont mind the nytro on the trails, but thats not what its for, vector is the nicest trail sled u can find, cant wait to try the 2010!
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Thanks for the post guys this is the kind of info I'm looking for. Keep them coming. I know what the FX was built for. I like to pound on the trails too. But I also like to sit back and cruise for a time. I don't want an Apex, I don't think the Vector can take the pounding that I like to do. I want to know which of this nytro's would be better for my riding style.
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07 nytro the whole way
