Rubberized Idler Wheels on '05's

[twomorestrokes]

Ok, I got an answer from a PM I sent to a guy that posted on HCS. He works at a Yamaha dealer and posted that when the '05's come in with bad plastic idlers, they replace them with '06 rubberized wheels under warranty and Yamaha recognizes this.

According to him, the '06 wheels are rubberized and are a direct replacement. He also said that I should contact my dealer again, and try to get them to exchange these parts for me under warranty.

Whether they're free or if I have to pay for them, if there's no machining involved, I'M INTERESTED. If this is the case though, how come we are messing around with machining, etc when we could just get '06 parts and bolt them up? Is this too good to be true?

 

[QCRider]

I just got mine yesterday ('06 wheels). I haven't had a chance to put them in yet, but the way I understand it they are a direct replacement with no machining necessary.

 

[garserio]

Ok, I got an answer from a PM I sent to a guy that posted on HCS. He works at a Yamaha dealer and posted that when the '05's come in with bad plastic idlers, they replace them with '06 rubberized wheels under warranty and Yamaha recognizes this.

According to him, the '06 wheels are rubberized and are a direct replacement. He also said that I should contact my dealer again, and try to get them to exchange these parts for me under warranty.

Whether they're free or if I have to pay for them, if there's no machining involved, I'M INTERESTED. If this is the case though, how come we are messing around with machining, etc when we could just get '06 parts and bolt them up? Is this too good to be true?

I certainly understand your concern with machining parts to fit Yamaha's 6205 bearing wheels...

The reason you've heard about the machining process was because the 05 wheel went junk very quickly. There were no other options for rubberized wheels in 05, so clever people came up with the way to machine a few parts to use other proven Yamaha rubberized wheels with the 6205 bearing. Now the 06 wheels are available...

There are already reports that the 06 wheels are delaminating. All Yamaha did in 06 was to overmold a 0.25" rubber ring on the OD of the wheel. This will certainly help absorb impact better than straight plastic, BUT the plastic that wheel is made of is still inferior. It bends and does not recover. Once this happens, the rubber will delaminate and the wheel will be warped.

Having said this, you still have the machining option. You also have the option to buy the new 06 accessory wheel which fits perfectly. I bought a pair myself and put them on. They are made by a Canadaian mfr who has been making great wheels for years.

Yamaha obviosly got too aggressive with their bogey wheel costdown project!

 

[QCRider]

There are already reports that the 06 wheels are delaminating.

You wrote that, and then this:

You also have the option to buy the new 06 accessory wheel which fits perfectly.

So what are you saying? The standard '06 wheel is no good, but the accessory wheel is ok?

 

[Blue Giant]

There are already reports that the 06 wheels are delaminating.

You wrote that, and then this:

You also have the option to buy the new 06 accessory wheel which fits perfectly.

So what are you saying? The standard '06 wheel is no good, but the accessory wheel is ok?

I believe so!

The accesory wheel is a different wheel made by another manufacturer. If you go the the yamaha-motor.ca you can check out the accesory wheels.

 

[QCRider]

I have 10 of them in my hand...

 

[garserio]

There are already reports that the 06 wheels are delaminating.

You wrote that, and then this:

You also have the option to buy the new 06 accessory wheel which fits perfectly.

So what are you saying? The standard '06 wheel is no good, but the accessory wheel is ok?

To QCRider: You got it right... The wheels sold in the accessory catalog are not made by the same company as the originals. I believe the canadian company is PPD in Sherbrooke, QC. They make top notch wheels.

Now, there are two type of wheels in the accessory catalog: Wheels with the 6205 bearing and wheels with the 6005 bearing. The 6005 bearing is the proper bearing for the RS series sleds. The wider 6205 bearings are the one that Yamaha used to use for years. If you use the new accessory wheels with the 6005 bearings, they will bolt right on and should far outlast the stock rubberized wheels.

See my post "Replacement Idler Wheels Results & Hints" for more info & P/N's. I bumped that post up to the front for you...

 

[twomorestrokes]

Thanks for the information guys. So it sounds like I'd be better off to just buy bolt on replacements from the accessory catalog instead of pestering Yamaha to replace mine with factory rubberized, right?

 

[Phantom]

Thanks for the information guys. So it sounds like I'd be better off to just buy bolt on replacements from the accessory catalog instead of pestering Yamaha to replace mine with factory rubberized, right?

Why not tell your dealer what you want to do. Let him warranty the wheels but use the accessory insted. Meet him in the middle on price and everyone should be happy.

 

[twomorestrokes]

That would be great if they'd go for it, but they wouldn't even agree to replace the idlers with more plastic ones under warranty while it was in there. I was a little disappointed with them for that. They said that the wheels were wear items, and failed due to the studs.

 

[Phantom]

Hope you're not going to buy the wheels from them.