OK, newbie question for all you seasoned riders out there.
I am interested in hearing thoughts on the capabilities and limitations of the Apex MTN in stock form.
In other words, say if I go ride with a group of guys that have 2 stroke MTN sleds, will I be able to side hill climb and dive into valleys through trees with them, or should I plan on sticking to playing in the deep pow, carving, etc.? (NOT trying to start a 2 stroke contest here, or limit input. Just an example.)
Let's hear your thoughts! Thanks -
I am interested in hearing thoughts on the capabilities and limitations of the Apex MTN in stock form.
In other words, say if I go ride with a group of guys that have 2 stroke MTN sleds, will I be able to side hill climb and dive into valleys through trees with them, or should I plan on sticking to playing in the deep pow, carving, etc.? (NOT trying to start a 2 stroke contest here, or limit input. Just an example.)
Let's hear your thoughts! Thanks -
niko
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
well tony my 06 apex can out power my mates 08 skidoo xp summit on the flats but will strugle in the trees as the weight shows a little when boondocking. Hillclimbing my apex has power to burn!! Even my mate says its a beast!!
Im sure once you get used to it others will take notice!
niko.
Im sure once you get used to it others will take notice!
niko.
niko said:
Well I haven't missed a weekend of "practicing" yet!
I hope to be trying some more advanced riding soon. I just signed up with a local club so that I will have someone to ride with. My friends and family all stick to the trails. So I am hoping this thread will give me some realistic expectations to aim for.
:exc:
347strokin
Expert
Iam interested in getting rid of my 08 Apex LTX GT and buying an Apex Mountain. How does the Ape do hillclimbing compared to the new XP? I've ridden the new 154 Summits and they are insane.
niko
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
My mates xp is 400 pounds so ive got another 190 on top of it but its not too noticeable when climbing. The extra power makes up for the weight if you get rid of 80 pounds then you will feel it really move!
niko.
niko.
shawnmcgr
Pro
In my experience it climbs like a 700 in light snow; in heavy snow it will climb with 800s.
It lays over and carves easier than a rev and side hills easier than a rev.
The front end is heavier than a rev so there is quite a bit more ski pressure. This make the steering more difficult to turn at low speeds (trees) in heavy snow; at high speed (or light powder) you will never notice it. I think this can be improved by going to a simmons dual keel ski...I don't think you will be able to get ride of it. I manage it with my throttle when I can...give it throttle to shift weight to the track.
It lays over and carves easier than a rev and side hills easier than a rev.
The front end is heavier than a rev so there is quite a bit more ski pressure. This make the steering more difficult to turn at low speeds (trees) in heavy snow; at high speed (or light powder) you will never notice it. I think this can be improved by going to a simmons dual keel ski...I don't think you will be able to get ride of it. I manage it with my throttle when I can...give it throttle to shift weight to the track.
shawnmcgr said:
I have to agree with you on how the snow conditions change the nature of the beast. Are you planning on changing skiis anytime soon?
adrenaline junkey
Expert
I ride with a bunch of rev 800 a m7 a nytro and some older mountain cats. don't underestimate your sled its plenty capable of going where others go and even further, A lot of its learning your sled and what you need to do to go where you want. the only time i have cussed the hell outta my sled was on a steep side hill on crusty snow but the rev behind me didn't do much better.
the best thing i ever did was add a set of Simmons gen II makes playing in soft powder in the trees a breeze keeps the sled up on top at slower technical riding
the best thing i ever did was add a set of Simmons gen II makes playing in soft powder in the trees a breeze keeps the sled up on top at slower technical riding
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TonyD said:OK, newbie question for all you seasoned riders out there.
In other words, say if I go ride with a group of guys that have 2 stroke MTN sleds, will I be able to side hill climb and dive into valleys through trees with them, or should I plan on sticking to playing in the deep pow, carving, etc.? (NOT trying to start a 2 stroke contest here, or limit input. Just an example.)
Let's hear your thoughts! Thanks -
In my humble opinion, other than spinning donuts in 12" of snow(which we used to do with our 1978 SRX 440), your sled is far superior and should outperform, outdistance and outlast all the other toys out there.
In stock form my RX-1 mtn(with proper clutching) was better or bang on the 800 class. In stock form my Apex mtn. (with proper clutching) has better pull and better traction than the others.
The Apex mtn is a big sled designed for big snow and big hills. You can't compare it's nimbleness to a mountain sled with a 144 or 151" x 15 track because it has a bigger footprint. If you install an adjustable riser bar(2-3"), pump up the air pressure in your FOX shocks, get a set of Gen II's, get a pair of boots with great grip, make sure your clutching is set so your not constantly hitting the rev limiter, (and maybe get a left hand throttle) you would be amazed at how light and nimble this sled feels.
Hmmm....having said that I'm a big guy and can throw this thing around pretty good. I do ride with some friends that are in the 160 - 170lb range and they do look a bit like a little kid on a big horse when they are on my sled; hence they have more fun on there "little sleds". -- (In return I feel a bit like Shrek on a Kitty Kat when I'm on their sleds.)
'nuff said.
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2007 Apex mtn SE
Western Canada
adrenaline junkey said:I ride with a bunch of rev 800 a m7 a nytro and some older mountain cats. don't underestimate your sled its plenty capable of going where others go and even further, A lot of its learning your sled and what you need to do to go where you want. the only time i have cussed the hell outta my sled was on a steep side hill on crusty snow but the rev behind me didn't do much better.
the best thing i ever did was add a set of Simmons gen II makes playing in soft powder in the trees a breeze keeps the sled up on top at slower technical riding
No underestimating here - just looking to set some realistic expectations. I will soon be riding with a club, and you know how riding with others can "inspire" you to ride like you have never riden before.
Wish I could afford those new Simmons skiis. That sounds like the way to go!
Hmmm....having said that I'm a big guy and can throw this thing around pretty good. I do ride with some friends that are in the 160 - 170lb range and they do look a bit like a little kid on a big horse when they are on my sled; hence they have more fun on there "little sleds". -- (In return I feel a bit like Shrek on a Kitty Kat when I'm on their sleds.)
'nuff said.
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2007 Apex mtn SE
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He, he - I'm 6'1" 200 lbs. so I feel fairly comfortable on my Apex MTN SE too.
I keep hearing the left handed throtle kit is the way to go. I'm basically convinced that I will add one for next season.
Good thoughts. Keep em' coming everyone!
'nuff said.
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2007 Apex mtn SE
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He, he - I'm 6'1" 200 lbs. so I feel fairly comfortable on my Apex MTN SE too.
I keep hearing the left handed throtle kit is the way to go. I'm basically convinced that I will add one for next season.
Good thoughts. Keep em' coming everyone!
shawnmcgr
Pro
Damned that weird, I'm 6'1" 205lbs...bit of a trend there...big toys for big boys?
No, I'm not planning on changing out my skis. The Sim Gen II just add weight to the front end. I just try not to ride in hard snow...who likes it anyways!
If you have not put a higher riser on that machine yet then get on it! It makes a big difference for taller guys. You can bolt on a 3 1/2" Rox riser without any cable or brake line extansions.
No, I'm not planning on changing out my skis. The Sim Gen II just add weight to the front end. I just try not to ride in hard snow...who likes it anyways!
If you have not put a higher riser on that machine yet then get on it! It makes a big difference for taller guys. You can bolt on a 3 1/2" Rox riser without any cable or brake line extansions.
