To much bite when turning. Suggestions to lighten?

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So most topics are riders trying to get rid of push when turning and now I have the opposite issue. Since last year I've added curve skis with 6 inch carbides and a 13 mm sway bar. Sleds extremely flat which is awesome and turns extremely well with no push at all but now when I turn it's so hard to get the skiis to turnbecause theres so much bite. I have to muscle the skiis to turn. Sled doesn't push at all but it's just very heavy steering espencially on groomed trail riding which is what I ride about 98 percent of the time. Any suggestions on how to lighten up the front some?

Current setup.
Curve skiis with 6 inch carbides
Fox Floats set about 60 psi (a arms are parallel)
Rear front spring turned down a little to make it softer
Compression Rebound set to middle (factory default)
Rear Transfer set to middle.
Rear strap all the way extended.
 
Tighten your rear front shock spring.

TrailxRider said:
So most topics are riders trying to get rid of push when turning and now I have the opposite issue. Since last year I've added curve skis with 6 inch carbides and a 13 mm sway bar. Sleds extremely flat which is awesome and turns extremely well with no push at all but now when I turn it's so hard to get the skiis to turnbecause theres so much bite. I have to muscle the skiis to turn. Sled doesn't push at all but it's just very heavy steering espencially on groomed trail riding which is what I ride about 98 percent of the time. Any suggestions on how to lighten up the front some?

Current setup.
Curve skiis with 6 inch carbides
Fox Floats set about 60 psi (a arms are parallel)
Rear front spring turned down a little to make it softer
Compression Rebound set to middle (factory default)
Rear Transfer set to middle.
Rear strap all the way extended.
 
I may be wrong but, I thought I read some where that going down one hole on your limiter strap will correct that problem. Check into it.
 
Options are:

1. Tighten front track shock spring (already mentioned here).

2. Loosen front ski shock springs - your 13mm bar should compensate for the increased roll you'll experience with the lighter setting.

3. Loosen (not tighten) limiter strap (to me this is a last resort).

Start with #1 and only do one adjustment at a time.

Good luck!
 
Groomerdriver said:
Options are:

1. Tighten front track shock spring (already mentioned here).

2. Loosen front ski shock springs - your 13mm bar should compensate for the increased roll you'll experience with the lighter setting.

3. Loosen (not tighten) limiter strap (to me this is a last resort).

Start with #1 and only do one adjustment at a time.

Good luck!

Front shocks are Floats so I can increase the PSI which should raise the front of the sled up a little higher. With the sway bar it should help with running more PSI with less ski lift and body roll. Not sure if this will make turning easier or not. Guessing maybe it's possible since the sled stance will be more parrallel with the rear vs the front being lower causing a more aggresive stance? I'll have to try it I guess.

I can't loosen the limitar strap anymore. I've never changed it and it came on the farthest hole when I bought the sled from my dealer. The strap is as long as it can get.

When I bought the sway bar it came with recomended settings and it said to tighten limiter strap 1 hole but this was using the stock skiis I'm guessing. My understanding is Tightning limiter straps puts more pressure on the front end? The sway bar also recomended the factory center rebound and weight transfer on the middle.

Last year I ran the sled with max weight transfer. Does the transfer settings affect the sled popping wheelies?
 
TrailxRider said:
Groomerdriver said:
Options are:

1. Tighten front track shock spring (already mentioned here).

2. Loosen front ski shock springs - your 13mm bar should compensate for the increased roll you'll experience with the lighter setting.

3. Loosen (not tighten) limiter strap (to me this is a last resort).

Start with #1 and only do one adjustment at a time.

Good luck!

Front shocks are Floats so I can increase the PSI which should raise the front of the sled up a little higher. With the sway bar it should help with running more PSI with less ski lift and body roll. Not sure if this will make turning easier or not. Guessing maybe it's possible since the sled stance will be more parrallel with the rear vs the front being lower causing a more aggresive stance? I'll have to try it I guess.

I can't loosen the limitar strap anymore. I've never changed it and it came on the farthest hole when I bought the sled from my dealer. The strap is as long as it can get.

When I bought the sway bar it came with recomended settings and it said to tighten limiter strap 1 hole but this was using the stock skiis I'm guessing. My understanding is Tightning limiter straps puts more pressure on the front end? The sway bar also recomended the factory center rebound and weight transfer on the middle.

Last year I ran the sled with max weight transfer. Does the transfer settings affect the sled popping wheelies?

I forgot...the Mono doesn't have a front track shock does it?
How do you adjust the Mono to increase the rail pressure which is then pushing the front of the sled off the ground.

Floats - I know next to nothing about them. Does increasing air pressure increase ski pressure? If so, you want to decrease air pressure to allow the sled to have more body roll...which the 13mm bar should counteract.
 
I say increase the center spring pressure and shim the rear of the ski rubbers a bit.

If you can get away with it, try reducing the torsion spring setting.

Increasing the weight transfer

Try one or two adjustments at a time and see how they affect your ride.
 
pump your floats down to 45-50 psi
 
Tighten up that center shock spring, Leave some air out of the floats. I think Wooly is right on the setting. I think on my center shock I lifted the sled until the shock was extended, loosened the spring until it was loose then tightened until slop was gone and tightened it almost 1/4 inch.
The torision springs adjust the ride height. I believe you can adjust that rear shock if you need to soften it up.

Geezer
 
Tighten the centre shock spring shim the ski rubbers reduce your current psi in the floats 10 lbs this you will have to experiment with also try adjusting your transfer rods also experimental Is it possible your carbides are to aggressive
 


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