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Zbroz shocks or Simmons Gen IIs? Help make nytro less tippy!

Lococoin

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My biggest complaint last year was how tippy the sled feels on harder snow. In the soft stuff it is great but on some off camber hard stuff i tipped it over a few times. Granted I am still learning to ride this thing after coming off my ZX but sheesh its annoying!

So with this lovely economy I am trying to figure out what to spend my money on first.

Would the zbroz x1 shocks or the simmon gen II skis help the most with making the sled more stable?

Im thinking the shocks will help the most since the skis will only give it another inch or so of width.

Any other ideas are more than welcome.
 

I remember reading about guys adding the new wider front a-arms and shocks from the 09 RTX-SE's. That may be an option as it would give you the wider front end. Also wouldn't the Gen II's add about 3" overall to the sled. They're 10" wide and I thought that the stock sleds skis were about 7".
 
the thing that will make your sled less tippy and better on the off camber stuff is hack out your sway bar and put fox floats in, or you could even keep the stock shocks. The Gen II's are nice too, but the cheapest easiest fix would be removing the sway bar, it costs $0 deniro. I know hacking out the sway bar would make it sound like it would be less stable, but it is the oposite, it handles way better without it, removing the sway bar allows the sled to lean in abit in a turn instead of fighting to stay straight upright causing in the sled to want to tip on slopes or to the outside of turns.
 
long reply

If you remove your swaybar you want to go with a wider ski stance. I went with floats and slydog powderhound skis. The skis are adjustable narrow 38", standard 39", and wide at 40". When the skis were at their narrow stance the sled was tippy and out of control. When I put the skis out to their widest position that helped a ton.

When the sway bar was in the skis at their narrow stance was better for carving.

I also switched to the timbersled front a-arms.

The 2010s widened the ski stance and eliminated the sway bar for just that same reason. We all did the R&D for yamaha last year experimenting with all different setups.

If you keep the sway bar in and go with floats that helps the most in a stock 08-09 sled.

The sway bar thing is a slippery slope. I am glad mine is out, but at the great expense of straight line stability and offer camber turns which are both bad.

In the steep and deep it's much better without the swaybar if you widen the ski stance and get floats.

In a perfect world I would get floats, the 2010 upper and lower a-arms, lose the swaybar and get wider skis.

This is the best setup I have found.

Otis
 
Rx1 cowboy said:
I remember reading about guys adding the new wider front a-arms and shocks from the 09 RTX-SE's. That may be an option as it would give you the wider front end. Also wouldn't the Gen II's add about 3" overall to the sled. They're 10" wide and I thought that the stock sleds skis were about 7".

Here is another option to save you some$$$ Timbersled makes a new 42" a-arm assembley out of chrome moly that can be shimmed an 1" to make it 43". You can also order either mountain, or trail spindles from them. Allen can also make a wider set, but you would have to discuss the shock location, if you are sticking with stock shocks. That way you don't have to buy the special zbros shock assembley with the front end. Zbros makes a bad a$$ set up, but pricey. IMO
 
I got Gen ii's, pulled the sway bar and got heavier springs for the stock shocks. All is good now, the stock springs are way too soft. Floats probably are the real answer but this was a cheap fix since I already had the springs.

Rx1M5
 
I have the 2008 MTX and switched the front shocks to fox floats. I found this made a world of difference. I haven't touched the sway bar so I have no opinion on sway bar removal results.
 


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