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I’m curious how many sleds your dealership was allocated?

If Yamaha and Cat had any brains they’d offer the 540 in the Blast/Venom.

That’s interesting! Unfortunately Yamaha seems to have regulated itself into a reseller of Arctic Cats. But, I mean, that’s cool… we’ve got small, independent grocery stores in our area that resell Costco products. I can buy a case of Kirkland toilet paper or paper towels for more money at the...

But Bass Pro & Cabelas are just outdoor stores, not power sports manufacturers. Yamaha and Cat are competitors with ATV’s and side by sides. They are still kind of competitors with sleds. A Cat dealer in the same area as a Yamaha dealer is very much in competition with the Yamaha dealer. To me...

So I figured I‘d post the annual “wait until next year” thread. This year I had some optimism that the rumored Japanese sled production shut down was just rumors. But going into next season I don’t hold out much hope for anything exciting or new. What do you think?

I remember hearing about that years and year ago. I didn’t realize how the snow division was organized and what impact that had on them. A month or two ago I Google Earthed the Minolta facility and yeah, it makes sense now how they don’t develop squat. They had an oval track and test trails...

I’ll have to check my ‘21 YZ250X. I never noticed anything before.

My suspicion is the 4-stroke Yamaha motors will die out in the Pro-cross chassis. I’ve watched numerous videos on the Cataylist and mass centralization was at the forefront of that design. Everything was made to be as light and compact as possible. I don’t see Cat changing that sled around to...

The most unfortunate thing about this release to me is it confirmed they are done manufacturing sleds in Japan. I wonder if the Ukraine war was the final nail in the coffin as they sold a good number of VK540’s in Russia? One would have thought Cat would‘ve wanted the VK Professional as an...

On the bold, I told you so. They have nothing new and didn’t offer the Cataylist to their customers. https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/models.php?action=lineup&line=snowmobile

What is there to disagree about? They went in all 4-stroke, emissions didn’t get stricter like they thought and they then lost a ton of market share. They weren‘t manufacturing the sleds that most people wanted. That’s a fact. Here we are around 15 years after the fateful 4-stroke only...

Totally agree! When they went all in on 4-strokes they alienated a bunch of buyers. They did get some new ones (like me) and I remember their market share actually increased in around ‘05. But then Yamaha did what Yamaha does so well, it quit innovating, it ignored well known problem issues (the...

I forgot about the SRViper, kinda like everyone else in the sled industry. Ha ha I don’t understand why Yamaha doesn’t do much for updates on it? The Cataylist is the only new chassis from any of the OEM’s. But, just like the Kawasaki/Suzuki agreement back in the early 00’s, neither shared...

Yes, I actually do. It should be painfully obvious to anyone else as well. If Yamaha had something new. Anything new. They’d be promoting and hyping up that something was coming. Instead he’s apologizing for late deliveries on 23’s and making excuses why Textron won’t be allocating many machines...

A whole lot of nothing for ‘24. The Yamaha sled division needs to either fold up and go away o actually start caring about both the sport and it’s few remaining customers again. This video is pathetic!

That’s just one governor. It doesn’t mean they are actually going to follow through with any of it.

OMG, you‘ve got to be kidding? What if they shut the electricity down now? How are you going to pump gas to live free and uncontrolled? One the plus side of things the line-up is showing promise. Not sure why so many on other sites are so worked up over “only” releasing a 600? The OEM’s often...

Yes but a snowmobile also has far more room to fit a battery compared to a motorcycle. The rolling resistance will be reduced with the direct drive electric motor compared to a CVT plus chain or belt drive. The Taiga uses a coolent system to both warm the battery up and to keep it and the motor...

I’ve often wondered how climate change has factored into Yamaha’s snowmobile plans? I think they see a dying market with a bleak future.

Using the BLS.GOV inflation calculator, that Vmax would be $10,853 in todays dollars. The Vmax was their top of the line sled in ’84. Just goes to show how completely out of wack sled prices are currently. I‘m guess sled sales for the past 10 years or so have been propped up by low interest...