What if and this is just a what if. The people opposed to sledding are the ones making the racket at 3 in the morning to rile people up against sledding. This kind of stuff happens!
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here's the info:
the senate bill passed the house 37 out of 38 votes...introduced by sen Jason Allen...covering north western mich...37th district..
here's the current info, it's at the tourism, outdoor recreation and natural resources committee...then if passes would go to gov to sign.....as many people that can contact and complain the greater the chance we have..
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the senate bill passed the house 37 out of 38 votes...introduced by sen Jason Allen...covering north western mich...37th district..
here's the current info, it's at the tourism, outdoor recreation and natural resources committee...then if passes would go to gov to sign.....as many people that can contact and complain the greater the chance we have..
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Joel Sheltrown
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Kate Ebli (D), Majority Vice-Chair, 56th District
Terry L. Brown (D), 84th District
Ted Hammon (D), 50th District
Kathleen Law (D), 23rd District
Steven Lindberg (D), 109th District
Mike Simpson (D), 65th District
Tom Casperson (R), Minority Vice-Chair, 108th District
Howard Walker (R), 104th District
John Stakoe (R), 44th District
Kenneth B. Horn (R), 94th District
David Mead, Committee Clerk,
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Did you guys know that all 4 manufacturers were backing this bill? They fear loss of trails because of noise will mean loss of sales for them. I spoke with someone in the know today. She is a client of mine and works directly for the manufacturers.
She said that the Yami 4 strokes would be at an advantage over the other makes because the exhaust shoots back. The test will be conducted from the side of the sled and it is at 4,000 rpm's.
She said that the Yami 4 strokes would be at an advantage over the other makes because the exhaust shoots back. The test will be conducted from the side of the sled and it is at 4,000 rpm's.
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also ...call Bill at the Michigan snowmobile association to bolster support in opposition:
MSA 1.800.246.0260
MSA 1.800.246.0260
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Dan...you might want to read this:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents ... S-0530.pdf
details on the test:
www.legis.state.wi.us/2005/data/acts/05Act210.pdf).
Under this test, according to hardcoresledder.com, the engine and exhaust noise level maximum for sleds manufactured after July 2, 1975 is 88 db at 4 meters as measured by SAE standard J2567. In the test the snowmobile is stationary and revved up to 4,000 engine rpm.
How comparable is the perceived noise across these three SAE tests? Is 88 db the right standard given ongoing noise improvements and very likely in the future? Is 88 db at 13 feet setting the bar way too low? I'd like to hear from you - you can send me a message.
*Jan. 2004 SAE J2567 stationary test overview: The sound meter microphone is placed 4 feet above the ground, inline with the exhaust outlet/center point of multiple exhaust outlets, on the side of the snowmobile toward which the exhaust is directed, 4 meters distance from the snowmobile longitudinal centerline. The operator holds the brake during the test, starts and runs the engine up to normal operating temperature, then slowly opens the throttle until a steady 3,750 to 4,000 rpm is achieved for not less than 4 seconds. The test is immediately repeated and the two readings averaged.
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents ... S-0530.pdf
details on the test:
www.legis.state.wi.us/2005/data/acts/05Act210.pdf).
Under this test, according to hardcoresledder.com, the engine and exhaust noise level maximum for sleds manufactured after July 2, 1975 is 88 db at 4 meters as measured by SAE standard J2567. In the test the snowmobile is stationary and revved up to 4,000 engine rpm.
How comparable is the perceived noise across these three SAE tests? Is 88 db the right standard given ongoing noise improvements and very likely in the future? Is 88 db at 13 feet setting the bar way too low? I'd like to hear from you - you can send me a message.
*Jan. 2004 SAE J2567 stationary test overview: The sound meter microphone is placed 4 feet above the ground, inline with the exhaust outlet/center point of multiple exhaust outlets, on the side of the snowmobile toward which the exhaust is directed, 4 meters distance from the snowmobile longitudinal centerline. The operator holds the brake during the test, starts and runs the engine up to normal operating temperature, then slowly opens the throttle until a steady 3,750 to 4,000 rpm is achieved for not less than 4 seconds. The test is immediately repeated and the two readings averaged.
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I was told he was the biggest proponent of it SJ........sj said:
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well as far as I'm concerned...this is not good for yamaha...and if he's behind it we should hammer him with calls..
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Interesting topic and good points and conversation. I have the Hauck kit and I don't know if I'd pass or not, but I am respectful, and that's what matters. But in a sound check like here in WI, I know I'll pay for the idiots when I get a ticket. Go West my freinds, Go WEST! Michigan WAS good, when Wisconsin got snow.