There's a lot of you guys that ride groomed trails. But up around my area there's few and far between for groomed. We got the old pioneer trails that my grandma use to walk. And a lot of trail breaking. I find the best for a apex to get up and not plow is to take the limiter strap off and give it max transfer. Rear shock set at 160 psi and 65 in the front (I'm about 190-200 lbs with gear). And I ride with a mix of sleds and most of the time I can get up ontop 2 feet of snow, or get across a stretch of snow covered bulrushes with a 3 ft void under the snow better then a 136,141 or a 144. And it still handles the groomed trail pretty good with the same setup with a little rider input.