hardcore said:
Rumor had it that a guy on an m7 came back and said he would sell his and get one of these because he liked how it handled.
Hardcore
Who me ?
Snowchecked my Apex after that ride !!
EDIT, This was my post on SW after the Apex ride.
As the thread title reads "Apex in Revy....It aint your father's RX-1!", could'nt be more true. The Apex in compairison to the RX1, well, there really isn't one. The Apex feel's, ride's, react's, power's, boondock's, climb's and out handles the RX1 by a very large margine in all those area's. Now everyone can say "well it better spank on the heavy rx1" and there right and it definatly does.
- "Suspension" (front and rear) is by far the BEST out of any mountain sled i've ever rode. It soak's up bumps on the trail as well as the bumps while climbing better than any sled or suspension on the market. It was truley mind blowing how fast and how hard you could pound the bumps without the sled pounding you back. It did'nt. It corners like a 121" track on rails, the ski's stay where you point them too, theres no darting, no washing out, no pushing. I found it almost effortless at low and high speed and the sled is very well balanced thru the bumps. I could go on forever how "perfect" the suspension is but i'm sure you get the point. t flat out ruled in this department.
- "Rider forward" in the Apex chassis. The riding position is very comfortable, it is not near as far forward as the Rev, if you looking for a compairison IMO its more like the M7 or the Poo900 as far as where your sitting on this chassis. The visability over the windscreen and hood is very nice, when i ride i like to see over the hood and windscreen with ease and also like to see the ski tips especially when wheeling, which i could on the apex. Like any stock sled on the market i felt the bars and seat were too low for my style of riding (which i expected before riding it). Knee's were not cramped, footwells had good room for bigger boot or foot size, running boards had good grip and a decent width until the very back of the tunnel where it narrowed.
-"Power". Yamaha claims 150 HP and i think there bang on what the claimed for HP. The power comes on instantly and is smooth throughout the RPM range. When you back out of throttle and pin it again it's right there. I dont have alot of seat time on any four stroke sled but i was very very impressed with the torque, it seems to keep pulling hard from low to high end.
-"fit and finish" Well, its a Yamaha, need i say more ?
-''Climbing". It climbs well and reacts how it should and is very predictable to riders body language. It doesnt dance or bounce around and i felt its due to the excellent suspension. With that said, i did notice the weight difference from what im used too riding. It seemed to float well, but once bogged down you gotta turn out very quick before being stuck. I would have liked to really give this Apex multiple pokes at some long steep hills but with only 6 on the snow, i didnt wanna didnt wanna risk the damage. I would say its very close to KK900, IMO it wont beat the KK but i felt it was in the ballpark.
- "Boondocking". This is where i felt that the weight of the machine would come into play and it did. While it completly destroys the RX1 in this department (as does any other mtn sled IMO), i found it to be top heavy. In the tree's it reacts predictable as it does climbing but these 2 area's ar where i noticed the weight issue. Its not difficult to pull over, but it does take alot more effort than M7 or the Rev 800. If i had to compare it to a another sled in the tree's and boondocking i would say its like the RT1000. Once you get it sidehilling and get the balance point it cuts thru the snow good but i felt you had to "muscle" it a little more than i liked.
Overall, i would have to say Yamaha made leaps and bounds over the RX1. The suspension is truly a dream come true, torque is great, but I like everyone else would like to see some pounds takin off this sled to make it better in the tight tree's and for turning out on climbs. Yes its heavy, no it's not a pig but if you wanna compair it to an M7 in the tree's, well you cant. IMO nothing in the tree's comes remotely close to the M7. And the only reason i even put the M7 into a comparison with the Apex is cause thats what i ride so thats my most honest thing to compair it too.