Help me ride this thoroughbred

[bsteven43]

I know the subject of Apex RTX setup has been covered a lot here and I've read all the threads I could find along with the FAQs which have been great. This is an amazing forum.

I'm still a little lost on a couple things and I just got an '07 Apex RTX. As background, it's got 96 studs in the middle and stock everything else. I'm 230 lbs and ride intermediate to aggressive.

What exactly is the "transfer rod" and how does one have the "transfer nut to the max"? Does this increase weight on the skis or the track and how does it relate to darting (I'm adding deucebars to the stock skis to hopefully reduce this because as is, the thing is kind of scary).

I've also read that the limiter straps should be "one hole up" ... does that mean shortened or lengthened? And what do these have to do with handling?


Thanks a million for the help guys ...
Thanks for the help guys ....

 

[Phazernut]

The transfer rod adjusts the weight transfer to the track. Max transfer will give you a lot of weight transfer....wheelies....and not great steering effort or control. A good start to eliminate some darting is to bring the limiter strap in one hole. If you have the stok skis shim them. (Instructions are in the FAQ section) Also lower the pressure in you shocks, I assume the are floats so that the front a-arms are level with the ground. This will also help with inside ski lift. There are lots of other things you will find you will want to do but this will get you started. Also have the sag in your rear sspension set for your weight or you will never get the ride you want out of the sled. I'm sure lots of others will pass along soem good info as wll.

Wecome to the site. Oh put in your loaction. It is a site requirment.

 

[Phazernut]

Up one hole on the limiter strap is shortening it. IT will put a bit more weight on the skis to help with the darting. The deuce bars will help but they tend to push a bit in the turns. Lot of guys are using snowtrackers with good results. I went with deuce bars first and then changed to C&A skis.

 

[bsteven43]

Up one hole on the limiter strap is shortening it. IT will put a bit more weight on the skis to help with the darting. The deuce bars will help but they tend to push a bit in the turns. Lot of guys are using snowtrackers with good results. I went with deuce bars first and then changed to C&A skis.

Thanks a lot for the info but I'm still a little confused. Shortening the limiter straps will put pressure on the skis and help the darting? Both limiter straps are set in the middle (of 5) holes. Does anyone know if that is "up a hole" or the standard setting.

I also read that an optimal transfer setting is maxed out based on what you said, that would put weight on the track, off the skis and hence worsen darting?

As far as the setting of the spring under the tunnel, do you have any idea where it should be set for a 230 lb'er? I looked at it and the rings under the spring are about 3/4s of the way up the threaded portion -

Hopefully this makes sense - thanks for the patience with the newbie.

 

[raginyamaha]

The transfer rod will only make a difference if your trying to accelerate, hit the gas at max transfer while turning and ur skis will come up and the sled will push badly. Play with the transfer setting and feather the throttle while turning negate some of the engine braking. And get some aftermarket skis. Stock skis are terrible, i have triple threats and love them.

 

[FAMILYMAN]

You might have too much weight in the front if its darting as well.

1. following ruts - darting
2. pushing in the corners - darting

Two different issues.

Front shock pressure will change alot of things. My rtx if a-arms are level with the ground it darts bad (nose heavy)

With my a-arms above level (50-55lbs filled with sled jacked up) its dialed in.

Center shock (front skid shock) will cause this more times then non as well. Can adjust with limiter straps one way or the other.

But, I would do the front shocks first, play with them and see what happends. Then go to the limiter straps in the front of the skid.

When I broke my limiter straps once, it took awhile to get it back to working.

 

[bsteven43]

You might have too much weight in the front if its darting as well.

1. following ruts - darting
2. pushing in the corners - darting

Two different issues.

Front shock pressure will change alot of things. My rtx if a-arms are level with the ground it darts bad (nose heavy)

With my a-arms above level (50-55lbs filled with sled jacked up) its dialed in.

Center shock (front skid shock) will cause this more times then non as well. Can adjust with limiter straps one way or the other.

But, I would do the front shocks first, play with them and see what happends. Then go to the limiter straps in the front of the skid.

When I broke my limiter straps once, it took awhile to get it back to working.

Thanks for the response. I just put air in the front to about 55lbs and replaced one of the limiter straps which was broken and added 6" deuce bars on the stock skis. I'm hoping to see a really nice difference.

Being a 230lb'er, would you suggest I have the main rear spring set a little on the soft side or more toward the firmer side? Also, would recommend I mess with the transfer rod settings?

 

[rxmaninblack]

Call Hygear for a center shock dual spring setup. The dual spring eliminates bottoming the front skid