Need Rider Input on Apex GT vs. Attak

[fdxhawk8369]

What are the differances between an attack and an apex gt

 

[Kevin Garceau]

15 inches of track is the biggest difference

 

[fdxhawk8369]

is it just a matter of personal prefferance or do most people reccomend 1 or the other for trail riding in say upper wis.

 

[Swiss Sledder]

is it just a matter of personal prefferance or do most people reccomend 1 or the other for trail riding in say upper wis.

Oh boy, very emotional question. The debate has happened on this site about 20 times and the verdict is an even split.

The longer track provides more traction and better stability, especially at high speeds like lake runs and old railroad beds. The shocks on the GT are much smoother than standard shocks giving it a nicer ride.

I've ridden both your options and prefer the Attak.

 

[vx700xtc]

The Apex has a lot heavier steering.
If you like really agressive steering , go with the Apex.
If you like the front a little lighter go with the Attak.
Apart from that and the amount of room needed on the trailer , I dont think you will see much difference.
Our group has two Attaks and an Apex, I ride the Apex, and must tollerate the heavy steering.

 

[LJ 452]

If you ride the tight twisty's, well I would consider the Apex. If you just cruise and prefer rail grades and roads, lake cruising, then the Attak/LTX is your sled. There is some ratcheting issues that seem to be Attak/LTX specific like, ratcheting, overheating, Hifax wear. While all can be reduced or eliminated, the Apex is just less prone to these issues in stock form.

 

[Swiss Sledder]

There is some ratcheting issues that seem to be Attak/LTX specific like, ratcheting, overheating, Hifax wear. While all can be reduced or eliminated, the Apex is just less prone to these issues in stock form.

Internet hype. Have two Attaks myself and ride with lots of guys on Attaks or Apex models and nobody has ever had a ratchet problem. Hyfax wear seems to be the same on both models, i.e. equal amount of complaining.

 

[LJ 452]

There is some ratcheting issues that seem to be Attak/LTX specific like, ratcheting, overheating, Hifax wear. While all can be reduced or eliminated, the Apex is just less prone to these issues in stock form.

Internet hype. Have two Attaks myself and ride with lots of guys on Attaks or Apex models and nobody has ever had a ratchet problem. Hyfax wear seems to be the same on both models, i.e. equal amount of complaining.

I understand, just as you don't have issues the one in our group does. If the track isn't banjo tight the thing ratchets. He cranked his transfer to min and from what we can tell the issue is gone. What I said was that it is more prone to it. As I have had my Apex track sag beyond anything you would normally have and no ratcheting. His hifax wear is greater than mine, and he will over heat long before mine. That's with both of us having 60/40 coolent. This may not be for all Attaks but it is for the one in our group, with what I've read it seems to be somewhat accurate.

I should have included the pros of the Attak. More stable, especially when decelerating. The Apex is more prone to trail wobble. Bump bridging, obviously the longer track will smooth out some of the studders. I'm sure there's more.

 

[yamadoo]

Heavy steering APEX > ATTAK that is all set up. They have the same front ends, motor and chassis . If you change limiter strap, spring rates or more importantly carbides or ski's you can make either of them steer heavier.

I have the APEX GT and love it. Yet if I had a choice i would get the attak because I see minimal down side to more track on the ground with that much HP. I love them both.

My two cents

Yamadoo

 

[whitedust1]

Attack all the way yammie sells more Attacks just better handling sled in rough trail conditions & hooks up the 150hp better. Always 121 apexs around but 136 move quickly off the dealer floor.

 

[Apex_GT]

I think the question is

FERRARI or BUS

 

[1CrazySledder]

I think the question is

FERRARI or BUS

Actually, the Attaks are faster than the short tracks. Been covered in these forums over and over. So, I suppose the "Bus" must have one heck of an engine to beat the Ferrari. LMAO....

 

[ahicks]

I think the Ferrari/Bus thing might apply more in the corners - especially when driven by an aggressive driver.

Anyone that says an Apex doesn't ratchet has never been on or near an Apex with a Proactive suspension.

Mono may be different.

 

[1CrazySledder]

I think the Ferrari/Bus thing might apply more in the corners - especially when driven by an aggressive driver.

Anyone that says an Apex doesn't ratchet has never been on or near an Apex with a Proactive suspension.

Mono may be different.

I didn't think of it that way. lol I know that has been debated as well, IMO, after you are on a 136" for a little time, you can corner just as well as a 121.
When I switched to a 136, I didn't really notice any difference after an hour on the sled.

 

[LJ 452]

I think the Ferrari/Bus thing might apply more in the corners - especially when driven by an aggressive driver.

Anyone that says an Apex doesn't ratchet has never been on or near an Apex with a Proactive suspension.

Mono may be different.

Correct, I was refering to the Mono.