Im looking into next years project and would like to stick to Yamaha and really like the look of the Nytro. What I would get would be a 2010 or newer Nytro 162" for upgrades I would go skinz front end, timbersled skid, skinz seat and airframe runningboards, oft relocator.. This would be all I could afford for upgrades no turbo no more stuff. My question is however is this worth it? Strictly economical with the prices in Sweden I would get a new 2014 sled for the same amount of money I would spend on the nytro. A 2010 nytro is about 15.00 US$ and then the parts would easily be a new sled.
I love building sleds so I would love to go the nytro route but would you end up with something comparable or is just a waste of money?
I love building sleds so I would love to go the nytro route but would you end up with something comparable or is just a waste of money?
hugger70mtnmax
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You would have a nice sled if you did that stuff. If you are wondering if it will compare with a new two stroke, that is a different story. It still won't. Short of A LOT of work to lighten it you just can't get close to the smokers in weight, therefore you just won't perform the same.
On the other hand you will have a fun sled that is a lot more reliable. You have to ask yourself if reliability trumps performance. If not then get a new two stroke.
On the other hand you will have a fun sled that is a lot more reliable. You have to ask yourself if reliability trumps performance. If not then get a new two stroke.
I hear ya and I realise most of that.. I dont expect perhaps to have the best sled but I dont want to feel like im riding on something from the 80's that just cost dubbel what they got
I know it's a though question to answer as it's all down to prefrences but it would be nice to get some opinions..

I know it's a though question to answer as it's all down to prefrences but it would be nice to get some opinions..
Not another sled I'd rather have than my Nytro's.
Fastrack
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imo, if ur playing in deep snow and hills, the nytro needs a turbo, the skins front end is the next best mod in my book
Fastrack said:imo, if ur playing in deep snow and hills, the nytro needs a turbo, the skins front end is the next best mod in my book
Bold statement, I spent my first 2 years (3k mountain miles) on a Nytro non boosted and still wouldn't have traded it for another sled. Altitude obviously has a effect as well, but I've rode over 10k as well down there and obviously was low on power but still love it. Now boosted I am addicted bad but I still think I would choose other mods first if I had to choose. Nytro's take a pounding and get you home every day, year after year. I want to switch to something new, but I cant get myself to want a 2 stroke and Yamaha has not done anything to make a new sled worth it.
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X2 Rick's comments and you are definitely on the right track. Those mods should get you a great handling powder sled with a RTR weight below 575. Put a li-ion battery or a YTX-10 and you are probably below 570.
Not sure what elevation you run at in Sweden, but assuming you are mostly in the <2000m range like Alaska or our end of North America, a Turbo is great, but not absolutely necessary. I still love my sled and have no plans to Turbo it.
I am putting a header and air filter kit to get it into the 145-150 range, but mostly that's just for fun and to compare to stock.
Someone else said it right... It's never the weight that kills your ride time. I wear out pretty fast because I am throwing around a snowmobile, not a football. How much extra time would I ride because my sled is 50 lbs lighter? Not much. My riding buddies are still getting stuck, I'll still be shovelling, pulling on skis, and I'll still be towing guys out. Snow is heavy stuff!
I hope you mod a Nytro and show us all what it turns out like.
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X2 Rick's comments and you are definitely on the right track. Those mods should get you a great handling powder sled with a RTR weight below 575. Put a li-ion battery or a YTX-10 and you are probably below 570.
Not sure what elevation you run at in Sweden, but assuming you are mostly in the <2000m range like Alaska or our end of North America, a Turbo is great, but not absolutely necessary. I still love my sled and have no plans to Turbo it.
I am putting a header and air filter kit to get it into the 145-150 range, but mostly that's just for fun and to compare to stock.
Someone else said it right... It's never the weight that kills your ride time. I wear out pretty fast because I am throwing around a snowmobile, not a football. How much extra time would I ride because my sled is 50 lbs lighter? Not much. My riding buddies are still getting stuck, I'll still be shovelling, pulling on skis, and I'll still be towing guys out. Snow is heavy stuff!
I hope you mod a Nytro and show us all what it turns out like.
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all_4_stroke
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Mike you hit it right on the head! I've ridden with all kinds of sleds, and stuck is stuck! You won't be the fastest on the hill but you will never be the one wrenching on your sled while everyone is waiting patiently. Solid you are on the right track with the 2010, it's a much better platform than the 08 or 09. I personally don't mind the stock skid with the fox floats. In my opinion the money you would spend on a new skid could be spent elsewhere, maybe turbo..... Ride the stock skid before you scrap it is all I'm saying.
I thinks it's the right way to go as I don't particularly care about beeing the fastest or most extreme rider I just like riding
And I do love the reliability of my current yamaha!
Been looking into the skinz front end development videos on youtube and they do seam to make a difference for the sled.

Been looking into the skinz front end development videos on youtube and they do seam to make a difference for the sled.


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hugger70mtnmax said:You would have a nice sled if you did that stuff. If you are wondering if it will compare with a new two stroke, that is a different story. It still won't. Short of A LOT of work to lighten it you just can't get close to the smokers in weight, therefore you just won't perform the same.
On the other hand you will have a fun sled that is a lot more reliable. You have to ask yourself if reliability trumps performance. If not then get a new two stroke.
Agree 100% with this one. Ask yourself which is more important, performance versus reliability.
hugger70mtnmax
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Off Trail Mike said:Soldi
X2 Rick's comments and you are definitely on the right track. Those mods should get you a great handling powder sled with a RTR weight below 575. Put a li-ion battery or a YTX-10 and you are probably below 570.
Not sure what elevation you run at in Sweden, but assuming you are mostly in the <2000m range like Alaska or our end of North America, a Turbo is great, but not absolutely necessary. I still love my sled and have no plans to Turbo it.
I am putting a header and air filter kit to get it into the 145-150 range, but mostly that's just for fun and to compare to stock.
Someone else said it right... It's never the weight that kills your ride time. I wear out pretty fast because I am throwing around a snowmobile, not a football. How much extra time would I ride because my sled is 50 lbs lighter? Not much. My riding buddies are still getting stuck, I'll still be shovelling, pulling on skis, and I'll still be towing guys out. Snow is heavy stuff!
I hope you mod a Nytro and show us all what it turns out like.
OTM
I have taken about fifty pounds off of my sled since I got it and I would have to say that the difference it made was huge. The two strokes are still 50-75 lbs lighter than what I have. I really don't like the idea of dealing with breakdowns on the mountain that seem to accompany the two-smokes, but it also hurts to know that I have over 10k into a sled that will not compete with a stock two stroke. I am glad I am not in a position where I need to decide if I would put the money into a Nytro again because it would be a tough decision.
Jagos
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Soldi, with all those key mods, including the skinz front end, you will have a great handling, mountain powder machine. Even though it may not be as light, continuously developing your riding skills will provide the additional 'performance' needed to go and do the most technical terrain you desire. I would also recommend the rollover valve w/tether, which isn't too expensive.
Let's hope Yamaha incorporates all these mods into the next mountain model.
Let's hope Yamaha incorporates all these mods into the next mountain model.
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