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Oil, I know this has been covered but please humor me.

Mobile 1 or Yamalube

  • Mobile 1

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  • Yamalube Full Synthetic

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mcamzr

mcamzr

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I know this has been covered on what type of oil to use, but I am now torn between 2. Yamalube full synthetic 0w/40 or Mobil 1 0W-40 (European Car Formula in North America). With the matching filters. Witch is a better option? The price is not a concern at all as an oil change is cheap insurance. Thanks for the help.
 

I will vote for Yamalube full synthetic if price was no object, but at $20/qt, I don't buy it as I feel Yamaha is overcharging us for it.

I personally use AMSOIL full synthetic.
 
I don't know why I didn't think of Amsoil. Can I add that to the poll somehow?
 
In terms of market share, I would bet that Yamaha would be in last place for their oil sales. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I haven't heard of anyones engine failing because they have used a brand name 0w40 oil other than Yamalube. $30 a year more for Yamalube oil over other brands is not a steep price to pay, but I work hard for my money and I don't like giving it away without a good reason. I don't know which manufacturer makes Yamalube for Yamaha, but I seriously doubt that they spend more than Mobil on R & D or any other major oil brand. Without any third party test data, it all comes down to marketing and hearsay, so use an oil that you personally have faith in, and don't worry about what oil others are using or you will drive yourself bonkers.
 
Here's the way I look at it. On a $14,000+ sled that comes with a three year warranty $20 $30 bucks more a year for oil is a non issue vs the arguement you will have should anything ever go south. As far as which oil is better? If there was that big of a difference in oil's Yamaha would be using it and putting there name on it to save warranty claim's. At this point I have never had a problem with Yamaha oil and I have not seen any Dyno sheet's proving HP or longevity gain on any Yamaha from another brand of oil.

Suit your self but IMO not worth stressing over.
 
Why zero weight is my only question? 10 weight is
good to -40 f and 5 weight to -65 f. I lived in Fairbanks
in the 70's and at -59 had no problems with 10-30. Yamaha called for 5-30 in the Apex in 2008, and the motors haven't changed any.
And I don't believe for a minute that yamalube is anywhere near the oil Mobil 1 or Amsoil is.
 
I for sure will not be stressing over it, I just thought I would ask others between the two oils rather than asking what does everybody use. I use Mobil 1 in all my cars, my lawn tractor, and string trimmer. I do use Honda oil in my atv but that is made by Mobil. I do use Yamalube Full Syn in the sled and I have not heard of anyone every having an issue from it. So i guess I am just wondering what everyone feels.
 
Grimm said:
I will vote for Yamalube full synthetic if price was no object, but at $20/qt, I don't buy it as I feel Yamaha is overcharging us for it.

I personally use AMSOIL full synthetic.
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X2 I have been putting Amsoil in everything from the sled to th truck as time calls for a change.
 
thrasher said:
In terms of market share, I would bet that Yamaha would be in last place for their oil sales. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I haven't heard of anyones engine failing because they have used a brand name 0w40 oil other than Yamalube. $30 a year more for Yamalube oil over other brands is not a steep price to pay, but I work hard for my money and I don't like giving it away without a good reason. I don't know which manufacturer makes Yamalube for Yamaha, but I seriously doubt that they spend more than Mobil on R & D or any other major oil brand. Without any third party test data, it all comes down to marketing and hearsay, so use an oil that you personally have faith in, and don't worry about what oil others are using or you will drive yourself bonkers.
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And my #1 reason for not running it.

It is expensive up here in Canada and has been proven time and time again that it is nothing more than just a regular oil.

For you Americans, consider yourself lucky that it is as cheap as it is, but like I have mentioned earlier, it would cost me over $90 to do an oil/filter change up here in Canada so for those of you South of me, if the prices you currently pay were to double, would you all still continue to use it?? :dunno:

This is just one UOA on a Yamalube racing oil and as you will see it is nothing special so I certainly wouldn't be running it at over $20 a litre, but that's just me.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub ... ost2617380

I can also post up far better/superior UOA's of Mobil-1 full synthetic European formula oil with over 30-50 times the mileage (compared to above) that will blow away the Yamalube UOA and any others that I can find if you like?

So, final question. Would you all pay over $20 dollars a litre for an oil that you know is nothing special, nothing unique or would you rather pay $10 a litre for an oil that you know is far superior, in both longevity and wear protection and that has time and time again come back with excellent UOA's regardless of mileage?

I did a VOA back in 2008..pretty plain Jane oil.

link:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub ... ost1176958

Blackstone report 6/19/2008

No elements Aluminum through Sodium.

Calcium 1100

Magnesium 964

Phosphorus 865

Zinc 1063

SUS Viscosity@ 210f = 89.4

cST Viscosity@ 100c = 17.83

Flashpoint F = 425

TBN = 10.0
 
He said money is no objective so go with whatever is easiest. For me it's simple: I could drive 15 miles to get Yamalube 0-40 for $13, drive 5 miles to K-mart to get Mobil 0-30 for $8 or 1/2 mile to Big-A to get Amsoil 0-30 for $10. Amsoil 0-30 full synthetic for me...
 
Also at $4.40 a gallon for diesel fuel @ 15 mpg it would cost me almost $10 in fuel to get the yamalube. Also Big-A has Wix filters that also save me some ching. So my point is whatever is easiest without sacrificing quality...
 
When I say money is no object I don't really mean it like I'm loaded. I like my money and intend to keep as much of it as I can, but that being said I would pay more for the yamalube if it were a better oil. It is about the same for me to go pick up Amsoil, Mobile 1, or the yamalube. Also does anyone happed to know the Mobile 1 oil filter par tnumber? And does Amsoil make their own filters?
 
mcamzr said:
When I say money is no object I don't really mean it like I'm loaded. I like my money and intend to keep as much of it as I can, but that being said I would pay more for the yamalube if it were a better oil. It is about the same for me to go pick up Amsoil, Mobile 1, or the yamalube. Also does anyone happed to know the Mobile 1 oil filter par tnumber? And does Amsoil make their own filters?
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As I pointed out, there has been no oil related issue's that I have heard with Yamaha oil so why challenge a possible warranty issue? There has been a case or two where Yamaha has steped up to the plate with an issue just out of warranty. I would bet that will never happen with another brand oil in the unit. Though there may be better oil out there I don't see any advantage when we will never wear these motor's out and there is no performance advantage from another oil. There are many reason's a manufacturer has an oil formulated for a specific application.

For me it is Yamaha oil and filter's even though it is over priced.
 
A manufacturer can not "not warranty" a vehicle if you use a different brand oil. It is against the law. As long as the oil used met the minimum requirements. As kviper said there is nothing wrong with Yamalube, but Amsoil is one of the most trusted names in the business so why not pay less for more. If Yamalube was cheaper or closer i would probably buy it... Actually i run 0w-30 full synthetic so Yamalube is out for me...
 
I think I should start a new poll with Amsoil in it. Or is there a way to add it to this one?
 
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