OT-ATTN. WI. Snowmobilers!!

[rozo jr]

I don't condone reckless driving, but I wish the AWSC would leave us alone!
Call or e-mail the legislators and/or AWSC & DNR and tell them to abort this bill!!


Here's the letter form AWSC;

We are asking each of you to contact your State Representative and State Senator and recommend they co-sponsor LRB-3699, a measure which will create a dusk-to-dawn 55-mile per hour speed limit for snowmobiles and will appropriate $32,700 of general purpose revenue spending for warden spot enforcement teams (SET)


LRB-3699 is being offered by State Rep. Dean Kaufert (R-Neenah) and State Senator Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) at the request of the AWSC in cooperation with the Dept. of Natural Resources. This bill will be instrumental in our ongoing efforts to curb fatalities related to snowmobile operation.

Please contact you legislators immediately and ask them to co-sponsor LRB-3699 offered by Representative Kaufert and Senator Fitzgerald. For your information, the toll free legislative hotline number is 1-800-362-9472.

If you have further questions, Please contact Scott Makowski, AWSC President, or Morris Nelson, AWSC legislative chair at (262) 252-3496

 

[SledderSteve]

Thanks for posting this here, the AWSC could take a cue from WATVA and better spend their efforts on rider education than trying to get more laws passed.

I've been through both the Wisconsin snowmobile and ATV programs with my family and the ATV program wins hands down for teaching rider responsibility and respect. Where is the trail ambassador program for snowmobiles? For ATV's it's training for "normal" riders who actually care about keeping the precious few trail miles we have available. That responsibility and respect is then passed on to other riders who haven't been "officially" trained.

I admit that I haven't been a "grouch" to sledders for doing dumb things in the past but I've sure taken up the cause while riding ATV's. In all but a very few instances, the folks I talked to actually ended up thanking me because they didn't want to lose the trails either. Snowmobiles have around 25,000 miles of trails while ATV's have about 1,500 miles.

I might be wrong but I believe establishing a speed limit will end up doing more to hurt the sport than help as the nutbags the limit is supposed to affect aren't going to care anyway. It's the average joe rider who's going to get nailed, get mad and take his sledding dollars to Michigan or some other less regulated riding area.

<Soapbox Off>

 

[MELROSEMAFIA]

Sometimes you have to protect people from "THEMSELVES". The NORTHWOODS bar owners need to CUT OFF the DRUNKEN sledhead WEEKEND WARRIOR when they have had too much to drink. I've watched it go on for the 5 DECADES i've been involved in the sport. They tried this in HURLEY a few seasons ago,( speed limit) it got ugly, and cost the area big $$$$$$$ when the word got out about what was going on. It turned into a money grab by the TREE POLICE. Their policy was "what would you rather have, a DUI ticket or a SPEEDING ticket. We ALL know the anwser.

 

[SledderSteve]

While Hurley remains a primary destination for me and my quads, I typically choose to ride elsewhere once the snow flies and I'm not exactly a cheap MF.
:ORC

 

[rozo jr]

Well, the reasons I'm against a mandatory speed limit are as follows;

1) In my opinion, the argument for reducing head on collisions doesn't hold water. I have been riding for nearly three decades. I have yet to have a close call at night with oncoming traffic at any speed, whether it be in the woods, lake or railroad grade. With that said, it's logical to assume that the only one who is likely to be injured in an accident is the operator. I as an individual am willing to take that risk.

2) The overdriving the headlights issue is mostly irrelevant. For example, there is a railroad grade near my cabin. I have been riding it for close to ten years. I know every road crossing, intersection, curve, etc. but I will be in violation of the law by riding 60 mph. This is ridiculous. The only real danger I can think of would be a deer crossing, tree limb down, or something along those lines. Possible, but unlikely. Again, in a case such as this, I will most likely be the only one who is injured, I'll take my chances, thank you.

3) I am a club member, and therefore a portion of my membership dues go to the AWSC. I am paying the AWSC to represent me, but I don't always agree with their decisions. I know their intentions are good, but I also believe they are just trying to be politically correct in the eyes of the general public, and don't really care about their members opinions.

I could go on, but I just feel that this bill is not the correct way to reduce fatalities. In the end, I fear it will just promote the further division among the snowmobiling community, when in fact we need to work together to resolve the issues that plague our sport.

 

[snojet]

If everyone would use proper judgement then there would be no need for any of this. As we all know, this will never happen. There are always people who feel that they can do whatever they want because they have paid their registration fee. So this is what you get, the do gooders will pass laws to "keep us safe" without thinking of how to enforce the new laws.

I have decided to pass my own law, and it is very simple and enforceable.
I will destroy any man who injures me, or damages my property due to their stupidity. All of you who belong to the entitlement generation beware! I am not a gentle man.

SNOJET!

 

[rattler]

I agree with Snojet.

 

[dsinnokinbottomend05]

I might be wrong but I believe establishing a speed limit will end up doing more to hurt the sport than help as the nutbags the limit is supposed to affect aren't going to care anyway.
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Atleast it generates revenue because the dumm ones usually seem to have it