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Phaser MTN Lite as a boondocker/ brush trail breaker???

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Guys I'm in the market for a new sled... want a sled I can crawl through the bush, breaking trail, through deep snow...

I was carefully looking at Doo's new 2010 Tundra Long Track since this sled is claimed to do just as I want but I'd much rather have a Yammy 500 4 stroke than a 550F 2 stroke...

With lowered gearing would the phaser be suitable for trail breaking at crawling speeds?

One more question, and I'll probably get shot for this, but, has anyone attached a hitch to the Phaser MTN Lite?... We pull Trailboggans where we go, frequently.... tj

NO, I don't want a Bravo...
 

I often go through the wods at slow speeds between the trees. I break trail most the time inDec and Jan and good part of feb. Lake Superios has nearly froze over on the western end so our Lake Effect has shot off. I think the sled in question is good for wha you are refering to. Here is a pic of me and a bud doing some trail breaking, taking a breaking and eating
 

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as you can see it is over the hood deep and I have no problems. Sometimes you may need to hop off at starts because the extra weight can sometimes stick ya. It for sure requires a skill that is a technique of it's own
 
I thin k there are other sleds with wider tracks that would do even better. You could also get a mtn Lite and get a new track 152 with 2.3 padles and rail ext. 700 bucks but one guy on here seay it turns it into a different animal. Mine is for sale if you are interested
 
I have a hitch on my mnt lite, I would say for sure you would need to gear down if your going to tow and I wouldn't plan on towing to much weight but a little is ok.
 
Tbyrd said:
I have a hitch on my mnt lite, I would say for sure you would need to gear down if your going to tow and I wouldn't plan on towing to much weight but a little is ok.
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can you provide a few pictures of your hitch please?

also... do these sleds float on top of the soft snow or do they fall through and trench like my MM when going very slow?.. tj
 
The hitch is off a mid to late 90's skidoo. I believe it was a 96 summit. It wraps around bumper and extends up to tie into the tunnel. I see them in my Dennis Kirk catalog.
 
I towed 30 gallons of gas and a bunch of other crap 60km up a really bumpy, sometimes steep trail and the Phazer pulled like it was made for it. I wouldn't bother gearing it down unless you're towing a heap of weight up really steep hills.
 
I was just thinking of this same topic the other day. I'm a lineman for a co-op in northern michigan and we are in the market to buy five new sleds. I being a yamaha guy, i think that the fazer mtx would do the trick just fine but other guys think the new tundra would be a better fit for what we want. Pretty much all we do is run out lines to find problems on them and sometimes haul some tools and another guy. Usually these right of ways have a bunch of snow with no tracks so I was thinking the mtx would be the answer for that but on the other hand the tundra is more of a work sled which wouldn't hurt. What do you guys think would work better? oh and I've never ridden either one so i don't have a clue on either....thanks!!! ;)!
 
I'm a forester so I've done my time on Tundras... They've stranded me so many times that I swore I'd never go near another. (These were the old Tundras, I took a new one out for a couple hundred kms last year and was actually really impressed with it. I believe it was a 550).

I've used a Phazer for work and play for the last couple of years and it's been fantastic. You really can't double on them, though, so that might screw you... I've done it a few times and it's not good (bottoming constantly, nothing for the passenger to hang on to and not a lot of room).

As painful as it is to say, for just a pure work sled I'd say the new Tundras are probably the most practical choice. They seem to be way better than they were, and you can put a passenger on one and hook a sleigh up without a bunch of messing around. They're easier to deal with when stuck, too.
 
You might consider a Canadian Venture MP or mod the US Venture Light - same engine and drive train as the Phazer but with a 16" (MP)or 15" (Venture Light)wide track. I have the Venture MP and have done considerable modifications to it. It is considered the pick-up truck of the Yamaha Canadian sled line. My MP is a very capable sled. I put a 2" Challenger track and Simmons Gen2 skis on it and it will go anywhere I care to go. It has suspension designed for two up riding, trailer hitch and load carrying ability.
 

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karl said:
You might consider a Canadian Venture MP or mod the US Venture Light - same engine and drive train as the Phazer but with a 16" (MP)or 15" (Venture Light)wide track.
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Y'know, that never crossed my mind... Good call! ;)!
 
karl said:
You might consider a Canadian Venture MP or mod the US Venture Light - same engine and drive train as the Phazer but with a 16" (MP)or 15" (Venture Light)wide track. I have the Venture MP and have done considerable modifications to it.
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Do you guys know if it's only the tunnel that is different, or if Yamaha has widened the whole bulkhead/frame/front end as well?
 
I groom our walking trails around here with a big truck tire behind the mountain light. The tire is around 125 pounds and fills right up wit snow I bet 200 to 300 pounds some times.

Stock gearing is no problem it is very low already the stock bumper is real strong for towing .

I did go 162 with the skid set back and it will outdo any tundra as far as trail braking now for sure.
You can go 151 with the stock skid and tunnel and bumper without any other modification
That makes it into a great deep snow sled.

Around here you can get MT lights relatively cheap and just do the 151 mod to make it a great trail breaker.
 
Well we ended up getting 5 new 2010 Ski Doo Tundras and I've gotta say they are pretty nice. We got the 154x16x1 1/2 and i've gotta say I don't think you can get the thing stuck. And the way the track pivots in the back is kinda slick when your in reverse. Definetely works better than my nytro. But like I said earlier i've never rode a phazer mtx so i cant really say which is better.
 
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