I have heard a lot of pros about going to a 13mm stabilizer bar on the Apex machines to eliminate inside ski lift. Are there any cons than people are aware of? I have an 07 RTX as does a co-worker of mine. We are both looking at getting the 13mm bar and I thought I would want to research it a little more. Do these work as good with sled that have the Fox Floats as they do with the coil over suspensions? Any other opinions? Thanks.
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They'll work great with any kind of springs. I say springs because the shocks themselves are of little relevance when you're discussing swaybars. The floats, being progressive in nature, will benefit more from stiffer swaybars than sleds with conventional straight-rate springs.
What the stiffer swaybar does is it links the two sides together more solidly in order to prevent body roll when going through a corner. The downside (and reason why there are torsion bars and not just a direct link) is in off-center bumps. With a light swaybar, the two sides of the suspension can act much more independently, so if you hit a bump with the right side of the sled and not the left, the right suspension will pop up momentarily and you sled remains more or less level. With the stiffer swaybar, a greater amount of energy is transferred to the OTHER side suspension. The end result is that rather than remaining level, the sled will pitch to the left. Now remember that these are varying thicknesses, so even with the 13mm bar, you still have the independence, just a bit less of it. That being said, most people find the loss in ride quality to be a worthwhile compromise for improving the handling. Also keep in mind the way that most bumps are laid out.... specifically, how often do you really hit off-center bumps? On-center bumps will handle EXACTLY the same with either swaybar.
What the stiffer swaybar does is it links the two sides together more solidly in order to prevent body roll when going through a corner. The downside (and reason why there are torsion bars and not just a direct link) is in off-center bumps. With a light swaybar, the two sides of the suspension can act much more independently, so if you hit a bump with the right side of the sled and not the left, the right suspension will pop up momentarily and you sled remains more or less level. With the stiffer swaybar, a greater amount of energy is transferred to the OTHER side suspension. The end result is that rather than remaining level, the sled will pitch to the left. Now remember that these are varying thicknesses, so even with the 13mm bar, you still have the independence, just a bit less of it. That being said, most people find the loss in ride quality to be a worthwhile compromise for improving the handling. Also keep in mind the way that most bumps are laid out.... specifically, how often do you really hit off-center bumps? On-center bumps will handle EXACTLY the same with either swaybar.
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Good explaination, I run the 13mm bar and now with teh ZX2 rear end I drive straight down the middle of the trail on not hugging the edge to avoid what LB is talking about re
ff center bumps. Handles soooo much better with the big bar.
ff center bumps. Handles soooo much better with the big bar.
Thanks guys, that's what I figured, but I guess I wanted to hear it from someone else as well. Your input is appreciated.
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I have an 07 rtx and I love the 13mm bar it is a great improvement over the stock bar and the rice quality is great. I can't see where some people say that it is to stiff and a harsh ride. Get one you will like it if you do alot of trail riding.
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the 13mm bar is tits!!!!
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Thats titties 
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Does Yamaha make a 13mm bar? I am just looking to swap out the one on my 2016 RS Venture TF LE.....I had replaced the one on my 03 RX-1.....with a Yamaha bar....It made a world of difference on the corners....the venture likes to roll, the stock bar has got to go.....
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I just added one to my 06 Apex and it made a huge difference. I also pulled my front strap up for more ski pressure and the thing rails now and goes where I point it. Money well spent. I have been questionable on some of the smaller things thinking they can't make that much difference but over and over again I am proven wrong. Small changes-big difference....
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But wait, there's more!!! Lol...Lazy explained it perfectly. I had 11, 12, 13....but broke them except the 13. With floats, you can run soft...low front end, and more compliant straight ahead, but corners flat as it twists and pulls spring from the other side...But...get some sway bar bushings made or Cobb something up so the bar is tight in the bulkhead holes...even new bushings let the sled lean an inch before pulling on the other sprin g...it is noticeable. when tight, it twists right away adding to predictability. Great for high speed corners.
