Ripsaw vs 9833

[yamadave]

I would like to get some of you guys input regarding which track I should purchase. I am not going to stud it. I mostly ride groomed trails with an occasional ride off trail. What is the Ripsaw part number? I checked some of the previous threads, looking for recommendations.

Thanks in advance....

 

[LazyBastard]

I believe that the ripsaw is 9821/9822/9823/9824/9825 depending on length. Not quite sure of how the numbers relate to the length.

In all honesty, ripsaw is an untested track. Its gone through limited paces by camoplast and yamaha, but has yet to see real conditions.

Judging from the pictures, there are a lot of independant nubs, each of which will be subject to pulling off. It looks delicate. We also don't know how it will perform under varying conditions. Will too much snow flow between the nubs?

The 9833 is a tried and true track. Its performance is exceptional. It is a block-type track with EXCELLENT deep snow performance (as far as 1.25x121's go). It is also EXCELLENT for traction in hardpack conditions.

 

[yamadave]

Thanks, Do you need to switch to extrovert drivers to run the 9833?

 

[JD]

I have a 9833 at my dealer waiting to be installed...I think and so do they that it will be far better then the Ripsaw...I will post after my first ride....JD

 

[deshkae]

I got the 9818 in a 1.5 ". It's like the 9833 but every third window closed. I like it on my shorty and the price was right, $275.

 

[HORSEMAN]

9833 track

I used a 9834 when I converted to a warrior set up late last year, I think this track wil be better then the Rip Saw . I think Yamaha just had to have something different to brag about, it might be faster on top, but I don,t spend a lot of time in tripple digits, and I feel that the 33 or 34 will get better hook up on and off the trail.

I thought that hook up was the most important factor that anyone would want in this sled.


03 RX-1 blue with stage 3 Mountain performance kit,9834 track, ohlin's rearschock, 12mm sway bar, longer links, Maximum performance front springs, silver secondary spring.

 

[LazyBastard]

Thanks, Do you need to switch to extrovert drivers to run the 9833?

No, you do NOT need extroverts for this track. I was personally VERY happy when I got my first sled that had fully INTERNAL drive sprockets, and would NEVER go external.

 

[Viper34]

I used a 9834 when I converted to a warrior set up late last year, I think this track wil be better then the Rip Saw . I think Yamaha just had to have something different to brag about, it might be faster on top, but I don,t

Having something to brag about doesn't quite justify the cost and time to develop a completely new track. This track hooks up better, has better top speed and equal durability to any current Camoplast 1.25" track, otherwise Yamaha would have just used an exsiting Camoplast track.

 

[POWERHAULIC]

You are correct on the numbers LB, here is how they breakdown.

9921H 121"x1.25"
9922H 136"x1.25
9923H 144"x1.25"
9924H 151"x1.25
9925H 159"x1.25"

All tracks are 1/3 clipped

Personally I would go with the 9833 for a 1.25"

I will be using a 9838 1" this year to get more stud penetration

 

[Snomad]

Viper, following that logic, why didn't Yamaha go with a better track the first time around? They should have known which one was better. Or Camoplast?

 

[Viper34]

Viper, following that logic, why didn't Yamaha go with a better track the first time around? They should have known which one was better. Or Camoplast?

The 1" Predator track was decided well before '03 for the RX-1, at that time the market was not as strong on 1.25" tracks, as we all know that quickly changed, then it was decided to make a completely new 1.25" track and bring out by '04. As you can understand decisions are made well in advance of production, and can sometimes be difficult to forcast.

 

[yamadave]

Thanks for the input, Horseman, whose 136 kit did you use? I've been thinking about that also.

Viper 34, do you think the ripsaw is better for conditions that are more hardpacked? Is the 9833 more of a powder track?

 

[HORSEMAN]

Well Viper you might be right, hopefully when it snows I will run across a new warrior and we can try each others sled under identical conditions. I talked to the head and horns of Yamaha at a spring showing and he had the balls to admit that basically they only make changes enough to keep up with or(hopefully) stay ahead of the other brands. When I asked about fuel injection he implied they would make the change when they felt they needed to and not before. That is not the attitude you like. When I asked about tracks he said they wanted to keep cost down the first year. When I asked about front end springs , he claimed that they didn't want the complaints that they had with the Viper. about too harsh a ride. You know of course that they did not put straight rate springs in 04 shorty front shocks, I personally feel that straight rate front springs do more for the sled's body role then the links or the sway bar. and I thoroughly enjoy the 136 over the 121, the sled seems better balanced.

 

[POWERHAULIC]

Horseman the springs are the best fix for the front end in my opinion also.
The 136" skid should make this a very smooth well tracking sled this year.

 

[yamadave]

Who are you guys getting you 136 kits from? I've been wondering if I shouldn't just trade for a warrior, but I think it'll cost me at least 2 grand. Any thoughts?