RTX suspension adjustment

[giddy up go]

Well I got my centre shock rebuilt by Bruce at Pioneer end of last season also the 13 mm stabilization bar. I got out today for the first try on it. The front ski's rode flat as they were suppose to, but I found the back end kicked like a mule (worse). Bruce set my centre shock up according to my weight and the riding I do, my strap is pulled down 1 hole from stock setting (4th hole I believe), torsion spring adjustor is on medium, the clicker is up about 16 turns in. My question is would I be best to be adjustng more preload on the torsion spring or to back off on the clicker to reduce the bucking? Almost forgot it a 2007 RTX (proactive suspension). Any help would be appreciated.

 

[nate007]

Without knowing what all was changed by Bruce, I would start by giving him a call to see where he suggests you start. most likely you will ha.ve to soften all the shock adjustments until its mushy, and start tightening things up from there?
When you say "bucking", are you talking about the rear of the sled kicking up in the air with or without a loud "thunking" noise? If you are hearing a loud noise when the suspension droops, you will need to tighten the rebound settings, as it is letting the suspension slam to full extension. That might be all that you need to do

 

[ahicks]

I would back all the way off on your clicker also - at least until you get a handle on what is going on. I'm surprised you had the front skid shock redone without getting the rear done? The rear is very likely the one giving you trouble. Stock, the valving totally blows. Too much high speed compresion, too little rebound damping. Your "kicking", where the back of your sled is trying to kick your butt over the handlebars on occasion, is rebound damping - or the lack of it.

Edit: Second thought. If you are running the overload bumpers, get rid of them. They're notorious for causing kicking/rebound issues.

 

[giddy up go]

I did say centre shock Ahicks is correct i should have said rear shock and also you were right in you assumption of "Your "kicking", where the back of your sled is trying to kick your butt over the handlebars on occasion["/b] was also correct, now do I have too much or not enough on the clicker? Any suggestion?

 

[Blue Oval]

I would back all the way off on your clicker also - at least until you get a handle on what is going on. I'm surprised you had the front skid shock redone without getting the rear done? The rear is very likely the one giving you trouble. Stock, the valving totally blows. Too much high speed compresion, too little rebound damping. Your "kicking", where the back of your sled is trying to kick your butt over the handlebars on occasion, is rebound damping - or the lack of it.

Edit: Second thought. If you are running the overload bumpers, get rid of them. They're notorious for causing kicking/rebound issues.

Do you mean the Anti-bottoming stoppers? My 07 did NOT come with them but I put a set on last season. On some of the early pics of that skid I do remember seeing the stoppers in place. I have not experienced the "kicking" issue. Doug

 

[ahicks]

The "kicking" is a rebound issue, and not controlled by the clicker. The clicker is pretty much for adjusting compression damping only. It sounds like you need to talk with Bruce.

Just me, but I would think you should ever have to deal with a shock turned up like that.

Yes, I was speaking of the "anti bottoming stoppers". I added a set too, but not for long. If they are helping you out and not causing you any grief, forget I said anything! If you do start getting your butt slapped because something changes, try removing them.

 

[smacho]

Kicking was the most important effect removed by the revalve I had last spring. Rebound control is what I gained ...


Settings: Floats @ 50 PSI; Straps 1 hole up (shorter); Springs (coil & torsion) where Bruce set it Pioneer, transfer - one turn in from red.

 

[Mikecam]

The clicker is compression (how fast the skid goes down). Keep it as soft as you can. Also keep the middle spring (front skid) as soft as you can. Turn up the clicker only when you are bottoming out too much. Also I run my front floats at 35 psi, tried the 50/60 psi but went back to the 35psi.