Irv
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I am looking to replace my square backers out for some round backers as the square ones have spun/turned and are in a position where they could cut my track.
I purchased some round backers yesterday at the T.O. sled show but when I came home and tried to remove the old ones, I quickly found out this wasn't going to be an easy job
I am running Woody's 1.325's SS studs (I believe?) and when trying to remove the nyloc nuts, they get caught up on the damaged threads that are exposed above the nut.
The only thing I can think of is to try and run a thread chaser down the exposed threads in order to clean them up and make the removal of the nuts that much easier ?
I am trying to save them and re-use them if at all possible but I know this isn't going to be easy!
Any tips/suggestions on what others have done?
I purchased some round backers yesterday at the T.O. sled show but when I came home and tried to remove the old ones, I quickly found out this wasn't going to be an easy job

I am running Woody's 1.325's SS studs (I believe?) and when trying to remove the nyloc nuts, they get caught up on the damaged threads that are exposed above the nut.
The only thing I can think of is to try and run a thread chaser down the exposed threads in order to clean them up and make the removal of the nuts that much easier ?
I am trying to save them and re-use them if at all possible but I know this isn't going to be easy!
Any tips/suggestions on what others have done?
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sherlock29
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Get a couple of the tox, or allen head bits you have and a impact gun.. they will come off... I've had to do this alot... either changing out backers for colored ones or replacing broken plastic backers... works everytime!...
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sherlock29 said:Get a couple of the tox, or allen head bits you have and a impact gun.. they will come off... I've had to do this alot... either changing out backers for colored ones or replacing broken plastic backers... works everytime!...
Thanks Sherlock, just stripped the only 4mm allen wrench I had

Managed to get one out and replaced with a round backer but the next one I tried was way too tough which stripped the wrench.
Going to have to buy some good quality ones like Snap-On and see how that goes?
Might have bitten off more than I can chew with this task?

sherlock29
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Have faith my friend!!!! you called it out yourself... good high strength tools,,, get one to put on a 3/8" drive... sometimes i even use a 1/2" ratched, with impact... it will come off. good luck!
Zakre
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I use my air hammer, a few whacks and they are gone. I am usually not trying to be nice to the track though, usually doesn't do any damage unless i put the actually hammer through the track. This is not a shitty tire air hammer, Snap On's best one to be exact.
roostinraptor
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i had to use a sawsall to get nuts off and had to replace studs
Irv said:sherlock29 said:Get a couple of the tox, or allen head bits you have and a impact gun.. they will come off... I've had to do this alot... either changing out backers for colored ones or replacing broken plastic backers... works everytime!...
Thanks Sherlock, just stripped the only 4mm allen wrench I had![]()
Managed to get one out and replaced with a round backer but the next one I tried was way too tough which stripped the wrench.
Going to have to buy some good quality ones like Snap-On and see how that goes?
Might have bitten off more than I can chew with this task?![]()
Get craftsman. Way cheaper and easier to exchange when broken...
try a grinder with a cut off wheel it worked for me last year.
207nytro
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Use an impact gun on the nuts impact should probably loosen them up enough without turning the studs. any damaged threads might be able to be repaired with a tap and die set. Like sherlock said on using a ratchet with a hex socket would be a good idea.
Buy craftsman if sears is close. If you break any of the hex bits just get em replaced. Snap-on may be overkill with this. Unless your constantly using tools (due to job) craftsman should work fine.
Buy craftsman if sears is close. If you break any of the hex bits just get em replaced. Snap-on may be overkill with this. Unless your constantly using tools (due to job) craftsman should work fine.
sgilbert
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whats your time worth? used studs are a waste of time to deal with


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sgilbert said:whats your time worth? used studs are a waste of time to deal with
Hey Scott just thought I'd say thanks for the USED studs, nuts, and backers you gave me to stud my Indy. Glad you wasted your time..

sgilbert
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have a coffe can here full for your new machine. they are bent and wont take nuts, so you will have to pean them over the backersAndyfreeze said:sgilbert said:whats your time worth? used studs are a waste of time to deal with
Hey Scott just thought I'd say thanks for the USED studs, nuts, and backers you gave me to stud my Indy. Glad you wasted your time..![]()
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207nytro said:Use an impact gun on the nuts impact should probably loosen them up enough without turning the studs. any damaged threads might be able to be repaired with a tap and die set. Like sherlock said on using a ratchet with a hex socket would be a good idea.
Buy craftsman if sears is close. If you break any of the hex bits just get em replaced. Snap-on may be overkill with this. Unless your constantly using tools (due to job) craftsman should work fine.
I am making progress and have decided to leave some in place that haven't turned or been beat up(bent)
Some come apart fairly easy while others are a @#$% PITA!

I broke one 5/32 bit already but it was made in Taiwan, surprised it actually held up as good as it did!
I purchased a second bit but went with Craftsman this time around and so far so good.
As far as wasting time,,,,, well it is a tough at times but I see no advantage of replacing perfectly good studs (the majority) with new ones when I would have to go through this anyways? (the removal of the old ones)

sgilbert
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thats what I am getting at, I now use round backers for that reason. if a stud is bent or beaten, as rare as that may be, the nut wont come off, nor will a new one go on. cut the nut with a cut off wheel and put ne stud in. or just leave it alone and find someting else to do. when its time for a track, get a new one and do it right. my replacement will be an ice ripper and my stock one will be a track matIrv said:207nytro said:Use an impact gun on the nuts impact should probably loosen them up enough without turning the studs. any damaged threads might be able to be repaired with a tap and die set. Like sherlock said on using a ratchet with a hex socket would be a good idea.
Buy craftsman if sears is close. If you break any of the hex bits just get em replaced. Snap-on may be overkill with this. Unless your constantly using tools (due to job) craftsman should work fine.
I am making progress and have decided to leave some in place that haven't turned or been beat up(bent)
Some come apart fairly easy while others are a @#$% PITA!![]()
I broke one 5/32 bit already but it was made in Taiwan, surprised it actually held up as good as it did!
I purchased a second bit but went with Craftsman this time around and so far so good.
As far as wasting time,,,,, well it is a tough at times but I see no advantage of replacing perfectly good studs (the majority) with new ones when I would have to go through this anyways? (the removal of the old ones)![]()


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sgilbert said:have a coffe can here full for your new machine. they are bent and wont take nuts, so you will have to pean them over the backersAndyfreeze said:sgilbert said:whats your time worth? used studs are a waste of time to deal with
Hey Scott just thought I'd say thanks for the USED studs, nuts, and backers you gave me to stud my Indy. Glad you wasted your time..![]()
LOL...great I'll be over this weekend and I'm gonna ride the nytro right across catamount.. the track should look ready for some bent studs by the time I get there..

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