tunnel extension for 174

[Sled Solutions]

ahhhh...well that may be...they are in Cooke as I type this...I think he gets back Wednesday...

yeah, they have some KILLER stuff coming out for the next year...will be really really cool!!!

They always do!!

 

[Sled Solutions]

The Skinz kit is available and sells for $295.00 but you'll not be putting a 174" track under it.

 

[robertyoke]

The Skinz kit is available and sells for $295.00 but you'll not be putting a 174" track under it.

humm then that aint workin....whats the point then a 162 fits under the stock tail..better bumper??

 

[mtdream]

The Skinz kit is available and sells for $295.00 but you'll not be putting a 174" track under it.

What is making you say that? 174" adds roughly 5" in length to the tunnel...

the stock 153" tunnel will easily accomodate the 162" track...

With the Skinz kit I added roughly 4"+ to the tunnel length...never measured...but ride with a lot of 174 sleds...and pretty sure it will fit...

 

[Sled Solutions]

The Skinz kit is available and sells for $295.00 but you'll not be putting a 174" track under it.

What is making you say that? 174" adds roughly 5" in length to the tunnel...

the stock 153" tunnel will easily accomodate the 162" track...

With the Skinz kit I added roughly 4"+ to the tunnel length...never measured...but ride with a lot of 174 sleds...and pretty sure it will fit...

I have no way of confirming that but your math seems like it would.

 

[mtdream]

I will let you all know, as I am going to a 174"x16"x3" track...and a friend (Avid Products) is making a KILLER Drop and Roll kit for the Nytro...which will be INSANELY awesome with the 3" track and better attack angle...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sled Solutions]

I will let you all know, as I am going to a 174"x16"x3" track...and a friend (Avid Products) is making a KILLER Drop and Roll kit for the Nytro...which will be INSANELY awesome with the 3" track and better attack angle...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep me posted!

 

[robertyoke]

here is the email i got....

It is in the talking stage right now. I would make two new bulk heads. The stock ones are bolted on. I think that 8 tooth drivers with a 3" track would be the goal. I wouldn't want to make the sled too tall. Instead of the normal down an inch and back an inch, I think just back an inch. Like I said, it is in the talking stages right now.
Robbie

im not sure why it would make the sled taller but i dont know...it would be really cool but sounds spendy.

 

[woodsrider]

It will be interesting to see the drop and roll kit seeing how the chain case is integral to the bulkhead.

 

[Nikolai]

It will be interesting to see the drop and roll kit seeing how the chain case is integral to the bulkhead.

from the post above

I would make two new bulk heads

 

[mtdream]

It will be interesting to see the drop and roll kit seeing how the chain case is integral to the bulkhead.

He would be making a new bulkhead panel...was riding with him, and chatting when this idea started...as we were sitting on top of a mountain looking at the attack angle...(pic below is Robbies sled)

Robbie is INSANELY smart...one of those guys that sits around and thinks about physics...but anyway, we were discussing sled philosophy (track speed vs. snow displacement) i.e. shorter (more speed) tracks vs. longer track with bigger paddles, and attack angles etc.

the 3.0" track is amazing what it does...been riding with a guy with a 174"x2.5"...and I can tell you that it will hang with almost all sleds on the hill...there is NO replacement for track/snow displacement... My Powerclaw, cannot even come close to hanging with a 2.5" track...and then you add the extra length...it is amazing...Robbies 3.0" track stock motor etc. it is insane where he can take that thing!!!

clearly with boost, it is no comparison, but compare like for like and the sled with bigger paddles and longer track just flat goes and goes....sounds simple...but most of the sledding world continues to go after the faster track speed path versus displacement path...

and some will say the 174 WOW that is too long...personal experience, it is no different turning than the 162, which I noticed NO difference going from 153-162....

Now someone like Nikolai (jumping) the length would (I think) make a huge difference...

but for me...I will be 174x3.0 next year...it is amazing...powerclaw is ok, in fact it is a really nice track, but doesnt hold a candle to the 2.5 and not even in same ball park as 3.0"


Now I just need to keep convincing robbie that enough of us will buy the Drop and Roll thing.... Anyone know of a dead Nytro with a good set of bulk head pieces sitting around? need two of them to get the measurements off of them...could return them, but need them for making the new D&R kits...

 

[woodsrider]

I went from a 151 to a 162 and I noticed the difference just about every where (trail, boondocking, climbing). However, I didn't mind the characteristics of the 162. I'vce ridden a 174 and had the same opinions. And yes, floatation is important along with track speed and paddle height. IMO they are all equally important. Enough of an increase in one factor will gain the same result as an increase in one of the others. From experience with the Nytro's stock POS track and a boosted sled, I could out climb other sleds with longer and better tracks purely due to the fact that my track speed was twice what thiers was. The thing was a baloney skin but I was still able to get around in some pretty difficult snow conditions. The ultimate fix is to increase all three aspects at the same time. It just depends on how knarly of a hill you want to climb.

Edit: The Eze-Ryde suspension greatly decreases the track attack angle just by the way the suspension mounts and you can run the 2.5" paddle. With a boosted sled I'm not sure the 3" paddle is necessary.

 

[mtdream]

With a boosted sled I'm not sure the 3" paddle is necessary.

since when did ANY of us do anything because it was "necessary"??? I know I didnt go boost cause it was necessary...I surely dont sled cuz it is

 

[robertyoke]

yeah, the math does not quite work out that way though, since you really have a triangle...besides, the Skinz kit comes with an extension that would fit out to about 188" track...I think it is a 10" top plate or something like that...

yea i think the triangle thing not really workin out like you might think....the ice age rails are exactly 6 inches longer from the 162 to the 174's
i do like the bumper tho....just need a good extension

 

[tapex_07]

I will let you all know, as I am going to a 174"x16"x3" track...and a friend (Avid Products) is making a KILLER Drop and Roll kit for the Nytro...which will be INSANELY awesome with the 3" track and better attack angle...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

I know this is old, but any word if this ever happened? I haven't read anywhere that it has.....