09nytro
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rrxx-1 said:
How does it start warm?[/quote
It always starts , warm or cold
09nytro
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fxnytroxtx said:
No you can keep them
fxnytroxtx
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That's what thought. Enjoy your trouble free sled
Well I own a turbo nytro XTX and a viper XTX. The power of a turbo is awesome and I'll have one on the viper. I have my nytro dialed in to handle anything and has split rail skis. The viper is also pretty nice. I have had a few issues with the viper. The viper also handles and rides very good. One ride is not going to tell you everything about a sled. They are both nice. Most guys with nytros spend $ to get them where they want them.
fxnytroxtx
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My nytro was $9000 out the door and the viper $12900. And I still have to put same axis shocks on the viper as I did on nytro because the stock once suck.
nitris223
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I never said everyone wants a turbo . What I was getting at is that the other brands offer a turbo for the same price as a nytro NA or very close to it. They also have there Na sleds priced cheaper. I wouldn't put the Yamaha sleds in the Ferrari class by any means. They are built well but are by no means exempt from stupid things.
For example idler wheels with the bearings molded into the wheel . Blow a bearing and pay $80 for a new one when all I need is a $5 bearing. Then when they came out with replaceable bearings in their idler wheels, people thought Yamaha reinvented the wheel.
Tip up rails, bragged the crap out of it, Polaris did it 5 or 6 yrs before. Nothing new just a tweak.
Why was there never a grease nipple on the drive shaft bearing on the clutch side in 2 strokes. Stupid sealed bearing that I replaced every year or 2. Polaris had it as far back as I can remember. Grease the bearing twice a year and get 6000 miles easy. Don't remember what Cat or doo had. Hate working on Doo's and sick of Cats to want to remember.
Push in grease nipples in suspension , pull the dam things out with the grease gun. Stupid plastic bushings in the suspensions cross shafts that need replacing every year. Other brands just run the bare aluminum shaft greased up with no problems. Any Yamaha suspension I work on , if the bushings are shot I clean up the shaft if it isn't shot, turn the ends on a lathe and fit a stainless bushing. No more problems. Stupid crap like that all cost money that they rape you on when you walk through their door.
It's not that they don't make a good product , they do but it is now high end sports car. Maybe a corvette in the Chevy line up but no European sports car. Like I said earlier I have worked on sleds for 10 years or more and I have seen all the dogs come and go. Some have good points and some have crap designs and Yamaha is no exception.
Why is there grease nipples on the XTX a-arms and none on the MTX. Was it a weight factor, or they think mountain guys don't need to grease them. They will probably roll it down the hill and smash the sled up before it causes a problem. I could go on and on about the Yamaha quirks but that's enough to chew on. My nytro is no perfect sled and to early to tell what kind of sled the viper will turn into just yet. But I will never own a viper or any other cross bread without it being tested for a few years.
A viper is just a Cat with a good motor. There is not enough Yamaha influence in the sled to make it any more then just a different colored Cat. Cat Dealer here hasn't sold one sled with the Yamaha motor in it. I guess some would say Cat Riders are stupid, it could be switched around also and said the other way. Somebody has to find the problems so it might as well be the people with lots of money. I work to hard for mine, I will stick with what is proven.
I may always be a few years behind and not riding the latest and greatest and that's fine with me.
For example idler wheels with the bearings molded into the wheel . Blow a bearing and pay $80 for a new one when all I need is a $5 bearing. Then when they came out with replaceable bearings in their idler wheels, people thought Yamaha reinvented the wheel.
Tip up rails, bragged the crap out of it, Polaris did it 5 or 6 yrs before. Nothing new just a tweak.
Why was there never a grease nipple on the drive shaft bearing on the clutch side in 2 strokes. Stupid sealed bearing that I replaced every year or 2. Polaris had it as far back as I can remember. Grease the bearing twice a year and get 6000 miles easy. Don't remember what Cat or doo had. Hate working on Doo's and sick of Cats to want to remember.
Push in grease nipples in suspension , pull the dam things out with the grease gun. Stupid plastic bushings in the suspensions cross shafts that need replacing every year. Other brands just run the bare aluminum shaft greased up with no problems. Any Yamaha suspension I work on , if the bushings are shot I clean up the shaft if it isn't shot, turn the ends on a lathe and fit a stainless bushing. No more problems. Stupid crap like that all cost money that they rape you on when you walk through their door.
It's not that they don't make a good product , they do but it is now high end sports car. Maybe a corvette in the Chevy line up but no European sports car. Like I said earlier I have worked on sleds for 10 years or more and I have seen all the dogs come and go. Some have good points and some have crap designs and Yamaha is no exception.
Why is there grease nipples on the XTX a-arms and none on the MTX. Was it a weight factor, or they think mountain guys don't need to grease them. They will probably roll it down the hill and smash the sled up before it causes a problem. I could go on and on about the Yamaha quirks but that's enough to chew on. My nytro is no perfect sled and to early to tell what kind of sled the viper will turn into just yet. But I will never own a viper or any other cross bread without it being tested for a few years.
A viper is just a Cat with a good motor. There is not enough Yamaha influence in the sled to make it any more then just a different colored Cat. Cat Dealer here hasn't sold one sled with the Yamaha motor in it. I guess some would say Cat Riders are stupid, it could be switched around also and said the other way. Somebody has to find the problems so it might as well be the people with lots of money. I work to hard for mine, I will stick with what is proven.
I may always be a few years behind and not riding the latest and greatest and that's fine with me.
rrxx-1
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09nytro said:rrxx-1 said:09nytro said:
How does it start warm?[/quote
It always starts , warm or cold
It'll start, but how well does it start? Or do you have the only rare perfect Viper? Every first year sled has teething problems, you don't have to hide it.
09nytro
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rrxx-1 said:09nytro said:rrxx-1 said:09nytro said:
How does it start warm?[/quote
It always starts , warm or cold
It'll start, but how well does it start? Or do you have the only rare perfect Viper? Every first year sled has teething problems, you don't have to hide it.
it starts just fine 
Koke1
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nitris223 said:
Koke1
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Also I have a 2013 which is supposed to be the best and most refined nitro of them all..with the tuner skis etc. and the thing handles great. I hae no ride time on the older models but I hear aftermarket was a must. so why did they do all this tweaking over the years to get it closer to perfect then completely jump ship. im honest when I say I was shocked how much I like my nitro after all the negative ive heard. Yami is capable of doing anything but they could care less about snowmobiles.
greekman133
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I rode the yamacats last year in duluth....
I was impressed with the handling it was beeter than the stock nytro (I own a 2012 xtx 1.75)...... that being said..... it was not enough to jump ship by any means and I have owned 2 cats nothing but money pits !!! I will stick with my nytro little tinkering here and there = awsome sled 100% yamaha not perfect but best of the bunch
I was impressed with the handling it was beeter than the stock nytro (I own a 2012 xtx 1.75)...... that being said..... it was not enough to jump ship by any means and I have owned 2 cats nothing but money pits !!! I will stick with my nytro little tinkering here and there = awsome sled 100% yamaha not perfect but best of the bunch
nitris223
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The only thing we have done to our 2011 MTX SE's is minor quirks that bug me, like grease nipples in the a arm. I put them in, made my own stainless ski bolt spindle bushings, my own clutch belt guard for the belly pan protection, larger idler wheels.. As for the front end and ski's they are stock, I have no issues when I ride it only change to the ski's are dually carbides. . Sure is pushes in the corners a bit but I am also running a 162 in the flatlands. Quick tap of the brake, plant the front end and make the turn , handful of throttle out of the turn. The guy on his turbo cat was trying to stay with me but he was always a good distance behind and this guy could ride.
With the powerclaw track I can power slide it around corners if the ski's are not biting.
Anything I have added was for extra power or preventative measures and that stuff I do to any sled I buy and any brand. The only sled I will never own is a Doo and that issue with me and Doo goes back 25 yrs ago. I have a sour taste in my mouth still from the one and only doo we owned.
With the powerclaw track I can power slide it around corners if the ski's are not biting.
Anything I have added was for extra power or preventative measures and that stuff I do to any sled I buy and any brand. The only sled I will never own is a Doo and that issue with me and Doo goes back 25 yrs ago. I have a sour taste in my mouth still from the one and only doo we owned.