What are the steps to "Summerize" a 4 stroke?

Is it easy to pull the drive shaft bearing and the Jackshaft bearing? Do you have to dismantle the chaincase to do this??
 
yamahahaapex said:
SledFreak said:
Skeeterzx225 said:
This is my first 4 stroke snowmobile, what are the steps needed to properly "Summerize" the sled? I'll be storing it in my garage, so I could easily start it up for a few minutes every month, is that sufficient or is summerizing necessary?
Grease the suspension and put Seafoam in the gas. Run the sled for 5min and your done. Wash and wax and charge the battery every 2-3 months...

Wow sledfreak if it was only this easy

What's so hard... Grease every grease zirk... Chnage oil if you want, but I wait for the fall, since the oil does not really get containated with condensation in the summer months. It's not like it's hot and cold all the time. It's summer and hot.... But what ever, if you want to do it. Yes, you can also change the gear box oil if you like, but I again, would wait for the fall. Put fresh gas in tank with Seafoam. Start the sled and run it for 5 min. Then your done. Wash and wax and put away without the cover on it... In the fall you should check sliders, gear case and wheels as preventive winter maintenace. The question was, what did he have to do to just "summerize"...
 
SledFreak said:
yamahahaapex said:
SledFreak said:
Skeeterzx225 said:
This is my first 4 stroke snowmobile, what are the steps needed to properly "Summerize" the sled? I'll be storing it in my garage, so I could easily start it up for a few minutes every month, is that sufficient or is summerizing necessary?
Grease the suspension and put Seafoam in the gas. Run the sled for 5min and your done. Wash and wax and charge the battery every 2-3 months...

Wow sledfreak if it was only this easy

What's so hard... Grease every grease zirk... Chnage oil if you want, but I wait for the fall, since the oil does not really get containated with condensation in the summer months. It's not like it's hot and cold all the time. It's summer and hot.... But what ever, if you want to do it. Yes, you can also change the gear box oil if you like, but I again, would wait for the fall. Put fresh gas in tank with Seafoam. Start the sled and run it for 5 min. Then your done. Wash and wax and put away without the cover on it... In the fall you should check sliders, gear case and wheels as preventive winter maintenace. The question was, what did he have to do to just "summerize"...
Well the only thing you are all forgetting is that it will need a Yamcharger ordered for next fall or it won't work right,it's a new part that Yamaha requires for a engine recall.At least thats what I'm telling the wife because I have a Rav Recall 4 and my 2009 GMC Sierra also has a recall,K&N cold air intake and a Flowmaster.Just having fun guys.

Anyway only one more thing fill the tank in the summer and take it out in the fall and put in fresh gas because gas is crap know.
 
mr. shide said:
gun nut said:
Just pop the seals, and grease them.
or get a needle attachment for the grease gun, then just slip the needle underneath the rubber seal.

Works better if you clean out the old grease and regrease the bearing. Slipping a needle in does not remove the old grease and water in the bearing. But your way is still better then not doing anything with them.
 
Back to the subject of summarization of our sleds.. Who else besides me and mr.shide fog their motors?? Is there any reason not to.. Seams like a good idea to coat everything inside the motor with some oil and its a relatively easy process...
 
shanksyamaha said:
Back to the subject of summarization of our sleds.. Who else besides me and mr.shide fog their motors?? Is there any reason not to.. Seams like a good idea to coat everything inside the motor with some oil and its a relatively easy process...
I fog mine, too. Like you say, why not? Everybody here does a few things they don't HAVE to do. I've fogged all my toys before putting them away since I was old enough to own them. Overkill is better than the opposite. I fog, stabilize the gas, grease everything to get the water out, visual inspection and repair as needed, take out the battery and keep it on a storage charger, clean er up and read it a bedtime story. One thing I did last year. I checked the idler wheels and they were all free with no rough bearings. This fall, I had to replace 4 bearings that froze up over the summer. I will grease them now even if they don't seem to need it. ;)!
 
shanksyamaha said:
Back to the subject of summarization of our sleds.. Who else besides me and mr.shide fog their motors?? Is there any reason not to.. Seams like a good idea to coat everything inside the motor with some oil and its a relatively easy process...

fogging a 4 stroke motor for summer storage is a complete waste of time and effort. If you are so worried, just start it once a month. These are not 2 strokes where the bottom end bearings need to be coated with oil for the summer months..
 
SledFreak said:
shanksyamaha said:
Back to the subject of summarization of our sleds.. Who else besides me and mr.shide fog their motors?? Is there any reason not to.. Seams like a good idea to coat everything inside the motor with some oil and its a relatively easy process...

fogging a 4 stroke motor for summer storage is a complete waste of time and effort. If you are so worried, just start it once a month. These are not 2 strokes where the bottom end bearings need to be coated with oil for the summer months..

Funny you should mention that because yamaha specifically recommends NOT to start your sled during storage.. They outline in bold that it is counter active and will actually increase the amount of acids in the oil and motor. Now with a 2 stroke, it would be fine to start it once or twice a month to coat everything with fresh oil, for a 4 stroke, not a good idea...

When you fog the motor properly you will coat all the valves, spring, pistons and rings, and cylinder walls as well as bearings and seals in the top and bottom of the motor... IMO, a 4 stroke needs the fogging oil as bad or worse than the 2 stroke. I've been doing some serious reading on it over the last couple days..

Fog, or not, I don't think anyone will have a problem with their motors..
 
Greasemonkey said:
shanksyamaha said:
Back to the subject of summarization of our sleds.. Who else besides me and mr.shide fog their motors?? Is there any reason not to.. Seams like a good idea to coat everything inside the motor with some oil and its a relatively easy process...
I fog mine, too. Like you say, why not? Everybody here does a few things they don't HAVE to do. I've fogged all my toys before putting them away since I was old enough to own them. Overkill is better than the opposite. I fog, stabilize the gas, grease everything to get the water out, visual inspection and repair as needed, take out the battery and keep it on a storage charger, clean er up and read it a bedtime story. One thing I did last year. I checked the idler wheels and they were all free with no rough bearings. This fall, I had to replace 4 bearings that froze up over the summer. I will grease them now even if they don't seem to need it. ;)!
I have a 2006 Attak,how do go about fogging the engine and what do you use?
 
Ai fogged everyone of my 2-strokes, now I only own 4-stroke and do not bother fogging. I keep them in an enclosed trailer and start them up every 6 weeks over the summer. This allows the sled to recharge the battery and if run for 5-7 min. clear out all the moisture. Yes, i know the manual says not to do this but i don't agree and have never had a prolem.

Yes, I do change the oil before putting it away in the summer. Oil can build up contaminates over a season of riding.
 
[/quote]I have a 2006 Attak,how do go about fogging the engine and what do you use?[/quote]

I'd like to know how you guys go about the fogging on the apex also. My first year with it.

also do you ever have a plug fouling issue after fogging? do you put new plugs in the next season??
 


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