What Else Can i do?

[Cody]

Im 13 i can put maybe $1000 towards my sled this summer.
I need to know what else i can do that would be just as good to keep my sled from bottoming out. I am looking at fox floats for the front but can i put one on the back aswell? im not to sure but iv got the suspension as stiff as it comes stock i weigh like 98 pounds and i bottom it out hard on 4-10 foot drops (i dont do em anymore gettin racked once was enough) i love jumping and catwalks i can do a few tricks but i just got a sled again last year before that my MXZ 583 blew the engine.

So what can i do about this problem and the $1000 has to pay for bars to.
Thanks.

 

[Cody]

Ok i was reading some milage contest topics and i found this

I officially HATE the Fox Floats And here is the results of that!! They are either to soft WITH to low of ride height OR to damn hard in the rough sections and limit travel to the point of sending that energy straight to the bars...

Now these aren't soft hands!! but check out the blisters and this is AFTER almost 350 miles of riding during the past 2 weeks. I had NO blisters before I started this morning!! Damn floats!! lol mmmm torn blisters NICE!! Feels good too!

Is that because hes trailriding or what? now im scared to buy fox floats. I did most of my riding in about 8 inches of snow last year cuz we didnt have a great year.

What to do what to do... :-(
and i still dont know if the fox floats fit my seld yet. I understand their for mountain riding so what other shocks could i get?

 

[rfabro]

Floats are for trail or mountain. But you have to do extensive mods to Floats to get them to work well wherever you're at. They need new internals and air reservoirs to be, in any sense, good. People just like them 'cause they're light.

http://carbonsled.com/float_reservoir.htm

Some people swear by them, but these people are usually non-technical AND haven't tested different setups with good, adjustable coil spring shocks.

Most people hate them.

Sorry, $1000 is not nearly enough for good shocks, new anyway. You MIGHT be able to get good shocks for $2000, but any less, they would have to be used, and still fit your sled.

Since you're young and light, you could get away with the GYTR shocks, which you could almost certainly get all 4 for a grand, used. But most people would not describe these as "good" shocks. But they are light-years ahead of the stockers on your sled. I would say those are your best bet, for now.

Start combing the swap section of this forum, you might get lucky and find some used Ohlins(the most recommended) for, like, $1500.

 

[cannondale27]

I paid less than $400 for the rear skid Axis shock and from what I can remember the GYTR's were around $900 that leaves $200 for valving.Your probably going to need springs also if you want to do what your doing.I may be off base here but it is going to be tough to get anything to not bottom if the landing isnt either deep snow,sloped slightly or you are moving really fast.With my setup I did 10ft drops lots of times but it was landings such as I described.Never just flopped off a drop into a flat with only 8" of snow.

 

[Cody]

Well ok im not to worried on the fronts i just need a back yes the front is stiff but i dont mind it much i just wanna beable to do at least a 5 dfoot drop.

And year before last we had 2 feet of snow most of the winter but my MXZ blew the engine so that was a bummer.

 

[Shoprat]

I made a set of rollers on the lathe last winter. They worked on the same principle as the anti-bottoming blocks but by allowing the spring to roll across the block there was not the drastic rebound. It made a world of difference. I downsized to a phazer last year because my son was learning to ride and I didn't need the big powerhouse sled anymore. I am 225 and had to try to find the bottom with these rollers mounted to the skid.

 

[ApexRtxGuy]

I made a set of rollers on the lathe last winter. They worked on the same principle as the anti-bottoming blocks but by allowing the spring to roll across the block there was not the drastic rebound. It made a world of difference. I downsized to a phazer last year because my son was learning to ride and I didn't need the big powerhouse sled anymore. I am 225 and had to try to find the bottom with these rollers mounted to the skid.

could you post pics of your roller set up thinking of doing the same on my x-tx

 

[couch]

You can swap out the rear springs for a pair from a Phazer FX / RTX - there's a post on here from someone who did it and claimed that it was much better. The springs are about $80 each in the us or 2x that in Canada (go figure).

 

[LJ 452]

I've been looking off and on for some rear/front shock for my MTX as well. A friend of mine has a F6 SnoPro. His sled never bottoms, the sled comes with Fox Zero rears and float fronts. The Zero's don't have a rese or anything but they seem to function very well, plus they are a large body, 2" that's larger than the Nytro S.E. Looking at the parts fiche, it seems the rear costs $300, and the center was around $200. I have no idea if these will fit the Phazer but even if you had to revalve, you're only in $600-$700. I think I'm going to take some measurements next time I'm at his house and see if it would be possible to make them fit. I'm sure if money was not a factor you could get a better setup but I'm not looking to dump $2000 into shocks for this sled. It doesn't get that much abuse, that's what the S.E. will be for.

 

[Shoprat]

ApexRTX Guy, sorry I have not gotten back here lately, I teach metal shop and school just started recently. I will post the pics and measurements soon. I haven't even got the sleds out of the back of my shop yet. It was a very simple and inexpensive fix to a problem many people had posted last year.