XTX off trail riders...what's your setup?

[stingray719]

Stingray, is there any advantage to doing the spring mod and going back to he pre location bolt holes? or are they the same?

Either, not both. Spring change is 15 minutes and does not alter sled so I would advise that. I relocated the shock on the girlfriends sled by drilling new holes and that works just as well but not as easy as a spring change. Note the XTX and MTX come with a 110 pound spring when most agree a front skid shock should be 160 or higher, even the Yamaha trail sleds are 135.

 

[NOS-PRO]

My setup and loving it...

Front floats - 65 lbs. (Set with skis off of the ground)

Rear suspension coil shock, 16 threads showing now

Rear float 145 psi

Depending on the day....70% on trail, 30% off trail.

 

[Joshua]

Rear float @ 145 psi, is this with the skid off the ground. And how about your limiter strap?

 

[piped bravo]

230lbs

Frt shocks 65psi
Rear shock 110psi
Frt rear shock (tight)
Limiter strap ...last hole (loose)

Not very trail friendly....but works good off trail...
This sled would be a dream with 1.75 back country track.

 

[NOS-PRO]

Rear float @ 145 psi, is this with the skid off the ground. And how about your limiter strap?

Yes, off of the ground. Anytime you adjust a fox float, do not have load on it.

Limiter strap is set 1 hole (sucked down 1 hole) from stock.

 

[17 Viper XTX]

XTX LE with 2.25.
95% boondocking 5% trail.
6'3" 230lb. with my gear
75psi Front
125 psi Rear
middle shock: 18ish threads showing
Sway bars removed for weight savings, hole was plugged.
8inch Slydogs with bushing set to narrow. (A-arms are narrower then a XTX-SE so thats a bit different)


I'm very happy with how lite the sled feels, how easy it is to carving, side hilling, uphill turns, etc. It will do a tight figure 8 carve on both sides. It will cat walk until I chicken out and let off. We did alot of tree riding in the hills yesterday (3-4 feet of snow) and this sled loves the deep stuff on a hill side and so do I. Very little driver effort needed as your zigging and zagging up a hillside, just pick a line in the trees and go. Very flickable! Every time I ride I am learning more about the sled and I'm impressed. After 8 hours of playing in the back country yesterday I am not sore today, that's a good sign that this sled does not need to be wrestled around when playing in the deep stuff .

I have a 2017 XTX SE, stock everything. With the 1.6” lug. Also trying to get it to work well in the powder. You have a 2.25” lug track. I would imagine this makes a massive difference. Does your sled have a turbo? If not did you change gearing? Do you find it has good power with a 2.25” lug? Was there any clearance issue with the 2.25” with tunnel or heat exchanger?
I am considering the backcountry 1.75” as I do a lot of trail riding and off trail. I would think the 2.25” would not be very trail friendly. The BC 1.75” apparently has a much stiffer lug than the 1.6” Cobra.
Your thoughts guys?
Thanks in advance!

 

[yamahaguy]

Let me first start out by saying we all ride different and have different setups to suit our needed. My sled started life as a long tunnel XTX 141X2.25 40 inch front end with mpi turbo and it worked well but my needs changed. Now it's MTX 153×2.6 with 38 front 7 tooth drivers and MTX gearing and this setup does very well in the steep and deep and I can get around ok on the trails with the scratchers down too. As far tunnel protection the sleds with 2.25 track or bigger come with a small profile tunnel protected to allow for the taller lugs. Yamaha uses 7 tooth drivers for 2.25 tracks or bigger and your XTX probably has a 8 tooth now.

The BC 1.75 you mentioned is going to be a great on trail but those stuff lugs like to trench big time and probably get you stuck fast if you're in the deep. When it comes to off trail tall flexible lugs are best to give you lift. As far as gearing I would choose that once you figure out what track your getting. If you're going with the BC 1.75 you're probably fine with the gears you have now.
Lots of variables depending on what's important while you ride

 

[17 Viper XTX]

Let me first start out by saying we all ride different and have different setups to suit our needed. My sled started life as a long tunnel XTX 141X2.25 40 inch front end with mpi turbo and it worked well but my needs changed. Now it's MTX 153×2.6 with 38 front 7 tooth drivers and MTX gearing and this setup does very well in the steep and deep and I can get around ok on the trails with the scratchers down too. As far tunnel protection the sleds with 2.25 track or bigger come with a small profile tunnel protected to allow for the taller lugs. Yamaha uses 7 tooth drivers for 2.25 tracks or bigger and your XTX probably has a 8 tooth now.

The BC 1.75 you mentioned is going to be a great on trail but those stuff lugs like to trench big time and probably get you stuck fast if you're in the deep. When it comes to off trail tall flexible lugs are best to give you lift. As far as gearing I would choose that once you figure out what track your getting. If you're going with the BC 1.75 you're probably fine with the gears you have now.
Lots of variables depending on what's important while you ride

Thank you very much for this information. This has definitely changed how I understand the requirements for backcountry application. I love this site!

 

[yamahaguy]

Thank you very much for this information. This has definitely changed how I understand the requirements for backcountry application. I love this site!

You're welcome and I hope you get it dialed in to suit your needs. Figure out what's more important to you, off trail or on trail and then build it accordingly.

 

[17 Viper XTX]

You're welcome and I hope you get it dialed in to suit your needs. Figure out what's more important to you, off trail or on trail and then build it accordingly.

It now turns out it is already dialled in as I am 90% trail and 10% off trail. So the 1.6 Cobra does trail great and for the 10% of the time I'm off trail as long as I keep momentum and track speed its decent. I would love to do more off trail as I find it much more fun and challenging but the winters here do not provide enough or the right snow to do so. If we are lucky we get 2-3 good snowfalls with cold temps which products that powder snow but typically it rains within a few days after! LOL!!
Thank again!