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There is no difference in the 14 /16 torsion springs, both are 18# 80* springs. Saddle bag weight would have you adjusting the blocks maybe one turn on one side only. This bottoming out with saddle bags and bucking without makes zero sense unless you have the incorrect torsion springs. Example...

Are you certain the rear shock is installed correctly?

Dang Mike I wish I would have seen this thread yesterday. I broke mine earlier this month (18) LTX and sourced 2 from port Yamaha. Figured best to have a spare. Would of been happy to help.

Just can't be said enough. PM's don't work on a stock sled.

Stain it was a pleasure chatting with you. Glad to help out...anytime buddy!

I have been running this combo for 6 seasons now. I'm using the 8" triple points. Just make sure you shim the back with their shim kit, it will come with your purchase of the skags. I'm set up different than most, A-arms are level (lowered vs stock), limiters sucked up past factory holes. Using...

Sounds to me like the ski loop is leading the sled....not good! I have a question, why does one need aggressive snow trackers with an EPS equipped sled?

I have both also, other than hood removal on the older Vipers (newer ones have different body panels) they are identical to work on. Same chassis, same suspension, same drive train, same clutches (except winder has roller secondary), same chain case, same seat, same handle bars and riser...same...

60 initial would be way to soft and useless

It's not at all, I have the same springs on the Winder with QS3r's and the Viper with stage 4 Elka's. Great combo for me on either sled.

They are correct

Heavier torsion springs would help out a lot as well. I'm 210 in street clothes and I have one step stronger torsion springs and a riding buddy is 240 in street clothes and he's 2 steps up from stock on his torsion springs. Not sure which spring comes stock in your MY but ours were 18# springs...

Steve is easy to be friends with, I too have been trying to hook up with him for a ride, just hasn't worked out yet. We text and talk about fishing and hunting it seems more than snowmobiling. I've never met him in person but feel like we've been life long friends.

Going to replace the broken sway bar on the winder today and put the stock muffler back on the Viper. Grease them up after 6 days of riding.

For me not worth the squeeze. I started with the 240 SS then upgraded to the cluster flash with closed loop. I run 240 mostly for trail riding so its a fair comparison. I get maybe a 1/2 mile per gallon better with closed loop verses the stand alone 240 flash. Same trails same fuel stops and its...

I couldn't agree more, the Yamaha platform with the Japanese ecu ran much stronger then AC's ecu in the procross chassis.

In this era of turbo sleds all Yamaha has to do is produce a 150 HP turbo trail sled and it will sell like hot cakes. Look at Doo's 900T, it's there most popular sled by far. What would be even sweeter is if they could do that with a 2-cylinder 4 stroke motor and turbo.... sign me up!

Stop doing that. There I fixed your Squeaking problem.

Set your low beam where you like it as it stays on when you go to high beams. I tend to have my low beam lower making the high more useful. One recommendation I would make is to get rocztoyz headlight adjuster. Easy adjustment on the fly.

When you break a sway bar they don't squeak...ha! I spray fluid film on the bar and again I don't have squeaks.